Posted on 09/25/2008 2:57:37 AM PDT by Yosemitest
RUSH: Okay, as to the bailout here, folks,
a lot of people over the e-mail are very confused about this, even some of my closest circle, because they think,
There's a piece at Bloomberg.com today by Kevin Hassett. Kevin Hassett is director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. He's also a Bloomberg News columnist, and he is an advisor to McCain. Let's be up-front in this presidential campaign.
Now, there's no... AAA subprime (laughing),
uh -- Well, it's a little bit of an oxymoron.
It's interesting, too,
you've seen the list of donations that have gone to all the Democrats of Fannie Mae.
At the top of the list of course is Chris Dodd;
number two is Obama.
However, if you reorder that list and look at the people who have received the most in the least amount of time,
Obama is at the top of the list by far and away. He's been in the Senate two and a half years, and he's the leader.
Dodd got his money over the course of many years.
So you have to ask,
There is a singular culprit here,
and that is it -- and there's a great idea at stake here, too,
and the idea is
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RUSH: This bailout crisis, my friends,
it is crucial I think here to understand the truth.
The policy perversions that led to this mess
began with the active connivance of the Clinton administration
and were perpetuated by leading Democrats in the House and Senate.
There were some responsible Republicans supported by the Bush administration time and again
attempted to avert the disaster they saw coming.
They wanted new regulatory agencies and so forth,
but their reform efforts were defeated in the House and the Senate.
Barney Frank in fact said,
Whenever this kind of money is going to be spent by the government on something,
Democrats are going to get their hands in it,
and they're going to reward people like ACORN.
They're going to try to.
They're going to try to build on their social programming and networking here
with this kind of money outstanding that is supposedly aimed at shoring up the US economy.
Now, McCain and Palin can claim to recognize the problem, and they can commit themselves to fixing it.
But they can't deliver the needed change on their own.
They need support in the House and Senate to do that.
Right now, there is no prospect of them getting that help,
not with Pelosi and that odious and compromised Barney Frank, Henry Waxman, Chuck Schumer, Christopher Dodd in the House and Senate leadership.
The names I just gave you have their fingerprints all over this.
Plus names that you were told of last week and identified last week:
It is a stain,
it is a stench,
and it is directly traceable to liberal Democrat policies and desires.
We know who caused the problem!
We know that we can only expect the change we need
by replacing them with congressmen and senators
pledged to a different course with a fundamentally different concept
of how the federal government can best serve the interests of the American people.
That's the change we need.
The change we need
That was the purpose.
These loans would not have been made based on any commonsense business model,
but the Carter administration decided to hell with business models
and use the law to pressure the issuance of these loans for the typical reasons liberals do these things:
A renewed and more vigorous emphasis was made on making these loans.
Janet Reno and Roberta Achtenberg
We got the quotes, from a Cybercast News Service story.
Subprime mortgages and things like them, are mortgages given to people who can't afford traditional mortgages.
They can't afford down payments.
They can't afford to make the going rate of interest payments.
So new types of loans were invented to get these people into homes but which were extremely risky.
There were no down payments, low introductory rates, in some cases no closing costs.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, in order to show ever-increasing assets on their balance sheets,
would buy up these subprime loans,
but the greater the asset,
the executives at these government-run companies would show more assets,
but they're worthless.
One of the problems now is
you've got a market, but nobody knows what the market is.
There isn't a market right now. It's tumbled.
Some people are saying
But the way it worked inside Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was this.
The issue is not a runaway, unregulated free market.
The issue is not the failure to regulate.
The issue is not stupid and crooked executives throughout the banking industry doing stupid and crooked things,
How many times in the last six months have we read stories about the Fed adding to liquidity here or helping this institution there?
We've already had a bunch of bailouts.
We've already had a government stimulus package to help the US economy,
and now Obama's talking about wanting another one.
These things have a history of not working.
They may show short-term relief,
but over the long haul, world history is replete with example after example after example
that centralized economic planning does not work. The Democrats on Capitol Hill, and primarily I'm talking here about Chris Dodd and Barney Frank,
were in the middle of this from day one.
They supported the Carter and Clinton administrations
when they pressured the private sector to make these risky loans.
They protected Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when they bought up these risky loans
-- and in 2003, when the Bush administration attempted to impose some accountability on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
when they tried to force them to accept outside auditors, require better capitalization.
You know what the leverage rate was?
They only had to have a dollar of cash on hand for every 30 bucks they had borrowed.
That kind of leverage is just obscene.
So they wanted to change that; they wanted more capitalization.
But guess who blocked it?
Good old Barney Frank and Chris Dodd stood right smack-dab in the way.
When, in 2005, Republicans in Congress tried to do the same thing, they were obstructed as well.
In fact, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank said there was nothing wrong with these government-run companies
and the Republicans were trying to scare people.
We have, now, ladies and gentlemen,
a clear definition of affordable housing, according to Barney Frank.
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RUSH: Now, wait, folks. This gets even better.
Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program,
meeting and surpassing all audience expectations on a daily basis.
So now we have Hank Paulson,
One little aside here, folks,
one little aside,
and I promise not to lose my place.
This amount of money that we're talking about, 700 billion
This is the most far-reaching government takeover of a huge chunk of our economy ever,
and it still isn't enough.
It's still not enough for Barney Frank.
Paulson wants a slush fund.
He basically wants $700 billion to buy up bad loans as he and only he sees fit.
Now you have Obama and Pelosi saying they want oversight?
Ha. That means ACORN is going to get 500 mill here,
some other little Democrat group, teachers union is going to get some money here,
Maxine Waters is going to get about a thousand dollars for each of her constituents to pass around out in California.
I mean none of this is official, but this is the way these things work.
Now, keep in mind these are bad loans in the sense that they were risky.
But the loans have not actually defaulted yet,
so unlike the savings and loan failure, this would be far more reaching.
The government's going to buy up loans before they default.
That's called affordable housing, the way the Democrats define it.
Barney Frank, among other things, says that this is unacceptable unless even more money is spent helping more people facing foreclosure.
Barney Frank's definition of affordable housing
So one of the main individuals responsible for the current financial problem,
Sarah Palin understands it.
She pulled your irons out of the fire
and you're about to throw 'em back in.
This idea that Andrew Cuomo should be Securities and Exchange Commission chairman,
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Read the Background Material...
IBD: Congress Lies Low To Avoid Bailout Blame
Newsbusters: IBD: Carter More to Blame for Financial Crisis Than Bush or McCain
Village Voice: Andrew Cuomo and Fannie and Freddie
FOX: Obama Laments Debt, But Promises Billions for Anti-Poverty Program
American Thinker: Mistress of Disaster: Jamie Gorelick
Wall Street Journal: The GOP Leads a 'Socialist' Bailout
National Review: The Bailout. Has Everyone in Washington Lost His Mind?
American Spectator: Financial Collapse Democrats
Change: Remove the Democrats Responsible for Mortgage Mess
September 22, 2008
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RUSH: I just got this over the course of the break at the top of the hour.
By Bill Sammon, FoxNews.com:
By the way, Snerdley said during the break,
So we've got a Democrat candidate who wants to nationalize the private sector.
We have a Republican candidate who is more populist than conservative.
In case you missed this, last night on 60 Minutes,
"The GSEs don't actually sell mortgages to borrowers.
They buy them from banks and mortgage companies,
allowing lenders to replenish their capital and make more loans.
They also purchase mortgage-backed securities, which are pools of mortgages regularly acquired by the GSEs from investment firms.
... Cuomo's predecessor, Henry Cisneros, did that for the first time in December 1995,
taking a cautious approach and moving the GSEs toward a requirement that 42 percent of their mortgages serve low- and moderate-income families.
Cuomo raised that number to 50 percent and dramatically hiked GSE mandates to buy mortgages in underserved neighborhoods and for the 'very-low-income.'
Part of the pitch was racial,
with Cuomo contending that Fannie and Freddie weren't granting mortgages to minorities at the same rate as the private market.
William Apgar, Cuomo's top aide, told The Washington Post:
Well, guess how they got the flexibility?
Hello, Janet Reno.
Hello, Bill Clinton.
Hello, Jamie Gorelick.
Last Thursday, at about one o'clock Eastern,
the Dow had a bottom of 10,500 before Paulson and Bernanke intervened.
That's about a 15% drop in the Dow since Pelosi and the Democrats took over Congress.
And we could go on.
The Conference Board's latest take, consumer confidence, 56.9%, a drop of 48%.
The unemployment rate in August at 6.1%, an increase, Bureau of Labor Statistics of 33%,
gasoline prices at about $3.70 a gallon, 68% increase.
What changed?
What changed?
Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd took control of the House and Senate banking committees,
Representative George Miller, Democrat, California,
Senator Ted Kennedy took over their respective labor committees,
John Dingell, Democrat, Michigan,
Jeff Bingaman, Democrat, New Mexico, became chairman of the energy committees.
There has been not only no oversight from the Democrat-controlled Congress on any of these things,
there has been an active effort to prevent oversight while at the same time blaming capitalism
and the fact that there has been no regulation.
They want as many of you thinking that capitalism brought this about
when in fact all roads lead to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
and the Democrats who enabled them and ran them.
They keep saying that people didn't believe in regulations.
This was a policy imposed by law and enforcement on the private sector.
So you've got Obama, wants to nationalize the private sector.
We have a Republican candidate who's more populist than conservative.
What we want is change.
Change the chairman of the banking committees in Congress,
get rid of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.
They are a disgrace.
They are lying about their roles in all of this.
They shouldn't be anywhere near addressing this problem now.
They should resign from their posts.
And the Republicans ought to demand it day in and day out.
To sweep this thing under the rug
is some sort of bipartisan failure or some kind of private sector meltdown or what have you,
removes responsibility from the kingpins behind this.
The tendency is of the Washington governing class to circle the wagons and protect themselves.
When you get to a juncture like, this party is not going to matter.
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd need to step down from these committee chairmanships,
and they need to be demanded that each day by the Republicans.
Here's the Barney Frank quote.
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RUSH: Joe in Annapolis, glad you waited, sir, welcome to the program.
CALLER: Thank you so much, Rush. Mega Navy town dittos to you.
RUSH: Appreciate that, sir.
CALLER: I am a mortgage banker.
In fact, I might be the only mortgage banker in America who does not own his home currently.
RUSH: Well, now, wait. You have to explain that.
CALLER: (laughing) I sold my home directly before the boom --
RUSH: Oh, oh, I thought you meant you lived in it, but you didn't own it.
CALLER: I do not own my new --
I have a condominium now in Annapolis, but did I own a home before.
I sold it directly before the boom,
and of course after the boom, housing prices went so high
that it eliminated me from the market because of course
being in the mortgage business there wasn't a whole lot of chance my income was going up at that juncture.
RUSH: Well, see that's another aspect of it,
because the overvalued price of homes is a central factor in what happened here
because of the bankrolling and the support for all these worthless mortgages and so forth.
With everybody running into the market to buy a house, what happened to the supply of houses?
It shrunk up so the price of housing went sky-high.
CALLER: Absolutely.
RUSH: And that led to ARM crises with people and their mortgages and so forth.
I know they took the pledge and understood that it could go up,
but when it did they weren't able to handle it.
What's happening now in the home price business, correct me if I'm wrong, is just a major correction here,
prices are now starting to stabilize.
What the market would really set them to be opposed to this mess
that existed with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
CALLER: Well, you are absolutely correct and, of course,
I get very concerned as a non-homeowner at this point that people will step in
in terms of government -- when I say people -- and try and correct it.
Of course politicians always want to have the economy look good if they're in office
and they always want it to look bad when they're not in office.
And when the housing prices were going up, nobody was doing anything
except for trying to encourage it with lower rates and that sort of thing,
government was always involved with Fannie and Freddie, as you have discussed at great length and very accurately, I might add,
so nobody was doing anything.
Now that it's crashing, as it needs to in effect, everybody is complaining
and blaming Bush and the Republicans.
RUSH: Yeah, they are,
and of course the Republicans are not out defending themselves in any of this.
You used the word "crash,"
but in California, first-time home buyers are up almost 20%,
because prices out there are stabilizing
and people can afford to get into the housing market now for the first time.
Anyway, Joe, appreciate the call, thanks much.
Laura in Newman, Georgia, nice to have you here. Hello.
CALLER: Hey, how are you today?
RUSH: Ah, pretty good, thank you.
CALLER: I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your explanation.
All roads lead to Fannie and Freddie,
the explanation of the current financial debacle that just gave me a much better understanding of what's going on.
And I think you need to repeat it every day.
RUSH: What did you think, I'm curious, before you heard my explanation,
what did you think the problem was?
CALLER: Well, I thought that it related to redlining,
but I just could not understand how big it had gotten.
I mean, it's hard for me to grasp the amount of money,
and I guess I don't really understand the sheer number of people involved.
You would think if someone is writing a mortgage, they would want to give it to people who could pay it back eventually.
RUSH: See, this is one of the fundamental problems that people are coming to grips with.
Most people, when they go borrow money have to prove that they can pay it back.
They have to show a net worth statement, income, all this.
It's tiresome and it's invasive, depending upon the amount of money you want to borrow and for what reason.
The loans we're talking about, these people didn't have to prove they had jobs.
See, you can't relate to that.
CALLER: No, I cannot.
I remember the seventies when interest rates were so high --
RUSH: I do, too.
CALLER: -- and I thought that I would never be able to own a house.
My husband and I made a move and we sold our house and moved to a place where houses were a good bit more,
and it was, you know, quite a shock and interest rates were so terribly high,
and it was depressing, I thought we'll never own a house again,
but we do, so it's not all bad.
RUSH: There are some positives here. I don't want to be totally negative.
I mean, people don't want to hear the positives right now,
but we're learning that you can't lend money to people that can't pay it back.
Whether we're going to keep doing it is another matter.
What's at stake here, folks, is the takeover of the US economy by the American left.
That is what is at stake here.
And you might be saying,
Can the government be the provider, the guarantor, the protector
of everybody for their wants and their needs?
We know intellectually, we know historically, it doesn't work;
it has never worked, at least it doesn't work for creating prosperity.
It creates tyranny. It works for people at the head of the chain on something like this,
but it doesn't create prosperity for people.
So these are, to me, very, very crucial questions.
The arguments that we have in this country are over
You could be charitable and you could say that people on the left and people on the right want the same things.
I used to think that but I don't anymore,
but for the sake of discussion you could say they want the same things.
We want a prosperous economy;
I really don't think the left wants and has the same vision for the country anymore that they once did.
I think this is a radicalized Saul Alinsky Democrat Party
How can you live in the greatest place in the history of humanity and hate it?
It's not rational.
We try to understand this
applying the same belief systems to our own belief systems
and it doesn't work. We don't have hatred for the country, we don't understand it.
It's not rational to us.
To try to rationalize their irrationality is a very, very frustrating thing.
In the meantime, we have a golden opportunity here.
They have nominated a 100% empty suit
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RUSH: By the way, some of you earlier
may not believe that Janet Reno was involved in pressuring lending institutions back in the Clinton days.
This is from the CybercastNewsService.com:
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Read the Background Material...
CNSNews: Financial Meltdown: Where Does the Buck Stop?
American Spectator: Financial Collapse Democrats
Bloomberg: How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett
Investor's Business Daily: Congress Lies Low To Avoid Bailout Blame
Newsbusters: IBD: Carter More to Blame for Financial Crisis Than Bush or McCain
Village Voice: Andrew Cuomo and Fannie and Freddie
FOX: Obama Laments Debt, But Promises Billions for Anti-Poverty Program
“But why is John McCain ignoring this story?
This is a matter of TRUTH.
Why is McCain ignoring the TRUTH?
Why is McCain failing to tell the American people the simple and unvarnished TRUTH?”
If all the problems created in this mess came out, McCain would have to bear some responsibility. I think that’s why he keeps quiet about the dems involvement. Both candidates helped put the illegal aliens into homes they couldn’t afford and neither one of them want to address that fact.
“Rush, you’re right ... as always!”
He is. if you ignore that he manages to get basic facts wrong.
Fannie and Freddie were listed companies on the stock exchange. Fannie began life as a government agency in the ‘30s but had been spun off as a private concern years ago. They were called GSEs, government sponsored enterprises, because of their one time affiliation with the government, but there was no requirement that the government guarantee their debt. They were private companies when they managed to dig themselves, and the mortgage market, into a big hole.
Rush likes to pretend to have much greater knowledge of economics than he does- it’s part of his “talk confidently” persona. When he doesn’t know what he’s talking about he goes to his default position of claiming every solution reduces to a conservative vs liberal or a Republican vs Democrat divide.
This fiasco has bipartisan roots, and some of it goes back to getting rid of the Banking Act of 1933 during the Clinton administration. The bill was sponsored by Republicans Gramm, Leach, and Bliley.
I thought John Denver was dead? ;)
Freddy Mac had been a private corporation since the day it was created.
Looks like Nick Nolte with a haircut and dye job
Until we punish the guilty .. the world won't take us seriously.
Not until the stinking, rotting corpses of
Newt and Rush are absolutely correct on how to solve this mess.
And I don't care what the world thinks!
I certainly disassociate myself from your views.
“Newts analysis completely ignored this aspect, and, therefore, is doomed to fail.”
Rush is right - it comes down to “who do you trust?”
I like Rush, I like Newt, I like Malkin, I like freepers.
When it comes to understanding the economics of the situation - when it comes to understanding the national and international aspect - when it comes to learning lessons from the Great Depression?
I trust Bernanke.
I don’t know. We’re talking about 30 years of dems pushing for mortgages for everyone, regardless of ability to pay.
Maybe McCain is complicit but the dems have the bigger share of responsibility.
Assessing the Public Costs and Benefits of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from The Congressional Budget Office May 1996 (some of the other article is almost identical to the article in this link as if the author might have used it as a source...as in see source #32)
The lawful, but unbridled, advance of shareholder interests at the expense of taxpayers, however, is an essential and inescapable consequence of the choice of GSEs as a means of delivering a federal subsidy to borrowers. It is part of the price of using GSEs as an instrument of public policy. Not least, it is a factor to be weighed in any decision to continue that practice or to end it by privatizing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I guess you should notify the CBO of your factoid.
One question though, do private corporations deliver federal subsidies?
Ship...In the abstract, FGCs seem to promise an alternative that everyone, from fiscal conservatives to democratic socialists, might find attractive.{75} FGCs conjure up an image of business efficiency as opposed to the traditional bureaucratic cabinet department. Proponents of small government may welcome the introduction of an element of private control into most realms of public administration as a means of preparing for the privatization of federal functions. Democratic socialists may view wholly or even partly owned government corporations as a means of capturing the rents and profits from public activities or natural monopolies for the benefit of the public fisc.
“I guess you should notify the CBO of your factoid.”
There’s no reason for me to do so. Unlike you they already know that Freddy Mac is a private corporation whose stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
http://www.freddiemac.com/news/corp_facts.html
“Corporate Facts
Freddie Mac is a shareholder-owned corporation whose people are dedicated to improving the quality of life by making the American dream of decent, accessible housing a reality. “
Maybe you should learn to read more comprehensively before posting some ‘nugget’ that doesn’t say what you think it does.
I’m also not going to ask Rush his opinion of my child’s brain surgeon. You know?
“Im also not going to ask Rush his opinion of my childs brain surgeon. You know?”
Exactly.
Which makes me wonder - I’m sure Rush has a capable financial advisor.
I wonder what he’s been advising Rush to do with his money these past couple of weeks?
“See that “taxpayers” word in there? Where is my return investment, and every other taxpayer’s return investment for that matter, if I’m not a stockholder or shareholder yet MY money is still being used? “
You mean the taxpayers described here?:
“Freddie Mac is not an agency of the Federal or any state government nor does Freddie Mac receive federal funds. “
Hunh. Imagine that- Freddy Mac’s own website doesn’t know that they are receiving your tax money:
http://www.freddiemac.com/corporate/company_profile/faqs/#BM6_
“6) Is Freddie Mac a government agency?
No. Freddie Mac was chartered by Congress as a private company serving a public mission; however, Freddie Mac is not an agency of the Federal or any state government nor does Freddie Mac receive federal funds. In fact, Freddie Mac is one of the nation’s largest federal taxpayers. Freddie Mac is owned by its shareholders and, like other corporations, is accountable to its shareholders and a board of directors. Freddie Mac’s enabling legislation calls for our Board to have 18 directors, five of whom are to be appointed by the President of the United States. Anyone can own Freddie Mac stock, which is traded under the stock ticker symbol “FRE” on the New York Stock Exchange; in your local newspaper, you’ll see our stock price referenced as “FredMac.”
Now maybe Freddy doesn’t know its own business and Wallison over at AEI knows better. Maybe the taxpayer subsidy is cleverly hidden in their balance sheet. I looked and couldn’t spot it. Maybe you can find what Wallison thinks he found:
http://www.freddiemac.com/investors/ar/2007/14_03.htm
Rush’s version of what is going on is a confused mishmash of fact and misinformation. McCain may well be “ignoring the TRUTH”, but if so it isn’t because he is ignoring what Rush is claiming.
I thought a lot about your post last night for some reason. Its simple truth kept resonating with me.
It’s not that I advocate blindly following the “experts.” It’s more that I am concerned to see people blindly following the amateurs!
What really gets me is someone like Rush, as much as I love and respect him, using his bully pulpit to go so far as to preach that “we don’t need the bailout.”
I can see arguing about how the bailout should be done, even, and of course about who is to blame for the situation (though I do think that discussion should be reserved for the day after this crisis is addressed). But to think our extremely limited understanding and experience in global economics gives us a leg to stand on in telling Bernanke, Paulson, et al. that they are wrong in their fundamental assessment that we are facing a huge crisis is just . . . crazy.
Worse than that, I fear it could be dangerous.
As I said elsewhere, I don’t want this once-in-a-century crisis decided by a popularity contest. Someone said, well, 60% of Americans are against a bailout. My response was *if* 60% of Americans are against doing what turns out to be the right and necessary thing, then I don’t want our leaders to cave to that. I want our leaders to take on the task of educating and persuading people on the necessary action.
However, such leadership is difficult in the best of times. When time is short and you have highly influential people popping off at the mouth on fundamental issues about which they have no way of knowing, such leadership may be impossible.
IOW, I am concerned that fundamentally ill-informed pop-populist blathering will lethally undermine the ability of those who do know what they’re talking about to at least get agreement that we have a crisis that demands immediate action.
Rush was talking yesterday that, oh, we just need to lift cap gains taxes for two years and the market will take off. Lifting cap gains taxes is ALWAYS a good thing. However, that is unlikely to cause this market to recover. Why? Because cap gains affect sellers. But this market has no money to lend-—credit is completely frozen (according to Rush’s buddy Jack Welch)-—so no one can buy stuff anyway.
Giving the seller a tax break upon sale of an asset doesn’t help produce the buyer to make the sale in the first place.
Anyway, I rant.
“Worse than that, I fear it could be dangerous.”
It is dangerous.
Alot of arrows are being slung around, but no one is addressing the main issue as to why Bernanke is freaking in the first place.
And anyone who takes the time to do a quick readup of Bernanke’s opinions concerning the Great Depression will see why he is freaking.
Bernanke wants to keep the banks from failing, and he wants to get the bottlenecked credit flowing.
The republicans are offering good ideas that may have worked a little while ago - and it is a shame it has come to this hotpoint.
I haven’t seen republicans explain why Bernanke is wrong.
There’s a good reason he wound up getting that job in the first place.
In wartime there can only be one general.
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