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Would like to know if people think this stuff is legit or just disinformation designed to sow panic and discord among Republicans.
1 posted on 09/24/2008 11:16:43 PM PDT by Luke21
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Cue the R.E.M. song. /sarc


2 posted on 09/24/2008 11:18:43 PM PDT by library user
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Well.. if he holds all the states Kerry won and picks up Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, game over!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 09/24/2008 11:19:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Republican strategist Karl Rove had predicted this tectonic shift, writing at Rove.com earlier this week: "[I]f the movement toward Obama in national polls continue to percolate down to the states, we could see an Obama lead later this week."

This hasn't happened, as a matter of fact Obama is having problems in the blue states and NH just moved into the McCain column. McCain has broken 50 in three of the swing states according to Rasmussen.  I guess it depends on which polls you believe are more accurate.  I would rather be in McCains position than Obama's right now.

6 posted on 09/24/2008 11:24:26 PM PDT by 1035rep
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Larry Sinclair hitting the MSM next month.


7 posted on 09/24/2008 11:25:18 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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Typically state polls lag national polls, so they're probably legit. However, the latest national polls show McCain coming back so the state polls could again change soon.

Frankly, the polls are so schizophrenic right now, I think the only reasonable thing to conclude is that the race is tight and there are lots of undecided voters out there.

The economic troubles are a gift to 0bama, because it has added a variable into a contest that otherwise, I think he would have lost very badly (and indeed, could still lose badly).

8 posted on 09/24/2008 11:25:26 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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My advice is to ignore these electoral college maps. Polling by state is much less than a science than a national poll. State-by-state polling tends to be all over the place, i.e. unreliable.

Moreover, and more important, unless the final margin of victory is within approxmately 1.5%, it is nearly certain mathematically that the candidate who leads nationally will also lead in enough states to get to 270 EVs.

Instead, reply primarily on actual data from past elections, especially 2000 and 2004. For example, Bush defeated Kerry in Nevada by 2.59%, which was slighty better than his national margin of 2.4%. If McCain is ahead nationally, he is almost certainly ahead in Nevada as well. Or take Florida. In 2004, Bush defeated Kerry by 5 points, or nearly 2.5% above his national total. If McCain is tied or behind by less than 2 points, he is probably leading in Florida. Etc. These state-by-state spreads do change from election to election, but not by very much.


9 posted on 09/24/2008 11:26:18 PM PDT by kesg
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One other thing. These state-by-state polls tend to lag behind national trends. What Politico is reporting here is the natural result of Obama’s poll bump last week in the wake of the financial mess. There is some evidence that this poll bumb is now starting to dissipate. If the trend continues, expect the state-by-state polls to follow — about a week later.


10 posted on 09/24/2008 11:29:02 PM PDT by kesg
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I’m looking at the polls too. I see NH for McCain. McCain ahead in FL, VA and tied in PA.

What polls is this guy talking about?


21 posted on 09/24/2008 11:40:22 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama-Biden Where's the beef?)
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I think it’s legit


27 posted on 09/24/2008 11:44:17 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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I think we throw all conventional wisdom aside in this election.

I've been saying this anyway.

The Bradley effect and oversampling of Dems in most polls have this whole thing skewed to where it seems like a horse race.

It isn't Obama's popularity that he is even in this race. It is Bush's and Republicans UNPOPULARITY.

Most of the electorate doesn't see McCain as Bush and as far as being a Republican, he is the 'Maverick' because that's what has been sold to them for the last decade.

People won't forget about Obambi's hate whitey church and his wife OBAMAROSA. They remember she isn't proud of her country. They can also see that Obama is in over his head and unqualified.

Obama hasn't run against McCain. He's run against Bush and now Palin, but not McCain. He's relied solely on MSM spin and blatant cover for his viability. But now that some people that never noticed the bias in the media (PUMA) now do, they are spreading the word and getting the truth for themselves.

McCain in Landslide. 7 point margin in the Popular vote, 342 to 196 in the Electoral College.
29 posted on 09/24/2008 11:47:18 PM PDT by lmr (NOBAMA '08!)
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This is Politico! Not friendly toward conservatives.


32 posted on 09/24/2008 11:54:49 PM PDT by ChiMark
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It's going to back and forth a few times before it's over folks. Be strong.


33 posted on 09/25/2008 12:00:24 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Fox had a poll today that had Obama ahead by nine points on who is more trusted to handle the economy. That’s the crux of it, folks.

For some reason, the electorate has decided Obama, a spendthrift steal your money Democrat, is more equipped to handle this crisis - when his type got us into it in the first place. I gues we have to thank the MSM disinformation campaign for that.


34 posted on 09/25/2008 12:09:45 AM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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It is easy to dismiss polls I don’t like.

That said, I really think that only polls based on the turnout in 06 or 04 are very legitimate.

06 because it’s the latest national election year.

04 because it’s the latest national presidential election year.

I understand that most polls are inflating the number of democrats polled, and deflating the numbers of independents and republicans. I don’t know why, unless they really have reason to think that their new projected turnouts have a basis in reality.

Rasmussen has the most believable turnout ratios that I know of. Anyway with better info please post it.


38 posted on 09/25/2008 12:34:42 AM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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Every poll shows something different. I think it is the media trying to create a horse race.


40 posted on 09/25/2008 12:38:22 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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What is with thtese polls? Just late last week they reported McCain going ahead in many battleground states - PA, MI, OH - and now Obama is pulling away. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM! Let's take the real poll November 4th and see what happens.
47 posted on 09/25/2008 1:16:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Looks like Reublicans, any Republican are blamed for the economic crisis. People have lost their minds.

The results of Obama’s election would be tragic for the USA.


49 posted on 09/25/2008 1:45:49 AM PDT by devere
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McCain has edge in nationwide poll

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BY BORYS KRAWCZENIUK
STAFF WRITER
Published: Thursday, September 25, 2008
Updated: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:16 AM EDT
Republican presidential nominee John McCain and Democratic nominee Barack Obama were in a near tie in a survey of registered voters nationwide, according to a Franklin & Marshall poll released Wednesday.

The poll showed Mr. McCain with the support of 45 percent to 43 percent for Mr. Obama, a spread within the survey’s margin of error of plus or minus 2.7 percentage points. The survey questioned 1,327 voters and was conducted between Sept. 15 and Sunday, more than half of it before federal officials announced plans for a $700 billion bailout of troubled financial services firms.

The poll contrasted sharply with the outcomes of most recent polls, which have Mr. Obama leading Mr. McCain by margins ranging from 1 to 9 percentage points, according to the Time Magazine/CNN Web site, RealClearPolitics.com. Most of those polls were conducted entirely after the bailout was announced.


55 posted on 09/25/2008 3:20:36 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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Now that the pollsters have added a new category there is no way the polls can be accurate. They have always been used to further an agenda.

Polling republicans DEMOCRATS independents and now a new segment AFRICAN AMERICANS.

Let’s not fall for their crackpot polls.


56 posted on 09/25/2008 3:38:59 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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Polls are a propaganda tool used by the leftists to try to stampede the herd. We go through this every election, where the rat always leads the republican. Anyone remember President Mondale’s great electoral sweep in 1984?

Thought so...


61 posted on 09/25/2008 4:52:54 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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