.....well, well...seems like someone in Germany "gets it".
some religions; over time, seems to degenerate into a "baseless/nihilist " form...only to be revitalized
....Islam haven't ever, faced the Challenge....still in the 8th century (socially). 
Posted on 09/23/2008 9:17:41 AM PDT by AdmSmith
Muhammad Sven Kalisch is an Islamic researcher at the University of Münster. He is also the first person in Germany to hold a Chair of Islamic Religion. Kalisch's recent public admission that he is unsure whether the Prophet Muhammad was actually a historical person has got him into hot water.
The plan to train teachers to teach Islamic religious education at German schools has suffered a major setback in recent days. The Co-ordination Council of Muslims in Germany (KRM), to which the four largest Muslim organisations in Germany belong, has discontinued its co-operation with the Centre for Religious Studies at the University of Münster, which became the first centre of its kind in Germany to offer teacher-training courses for teachers of Islamic religion.
The dispute centres around the Director of the centre, Professor Muhammad Sven Kalisch, who converted to Islam at the age of fifteen. Speaking in a radio interview, Kalisch said that following extensive research and study, he had come to what is for a Muslim a particularly controversial conclusion, namely that the Prophet may not in fact have been a historical person.
An academic debate
"The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not," said Kalisch. "I believe that there is no definite answer to this question, although I must admit that I tend more towards the view that he did not exist. However, one must be able to say so and one must be able to have an academic debate about it."
The Co-ordination Council of Muslims is not, however, willing to enter into such an academic debate. The spokesman for the council, Ali Kizilkaya, says that this is neither the job of the council, nor is it the point at issue.
"Well, if the Prophet never existed, then the Koran does not exist. And if the Koran does not exist, what is left?" asks Kizilkaya. "This would mean that we would have to abolish the religion altogether. No, we do not believe that this is the case: we are convinced that the Prophet did indeed exist and that the Koran is the word of God."
He went on to say that as far as the Co-ordination Council of Muslims is concerned, this is not about the question of the academic freedom of the researcher, but about whether someone with these views and convictions, someone who harbours doubts about the foundation of a particular religion, is the right person to train teachers of that religion.
This is why the council not only withdrew from the advisory council of the centre, but also called on young Muslims not to apply for the course on offer there.
full article http://qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-478/_nr-812/i.html
“The results were such that it is my conviction that it cannot be proven whether Muhammad actually lived or not,” said Kalisch. “I believe that there is no definite answer to this question, although I must admit that I tend more towards the view that he did not exist.
LOL!
You just can’t make this stuff up.
It’s hard to believe that such a pervert as Muhammet did in fact exist.
Works for me
I wonder if his life insurance payments are going to increase.
Hope he doesn't lose his head over it.
Pretty silly. Who does he think started all that trouble? Either Mohammed existed, or some guy pretending to be Mohammed.
No, the real question is, what kind of guy was Muhammed? And the record is pretty clear. Murderer, liar, rapist, slaver, and one of the biggest trouble makers in history.
Maybe Genghis Kahn or Stalin killed more people in their times, but Mohammed’s legacy is still bringing violence, evil, abuse of women, and slavery to the world 1400 years after his death. Not to mention a false religion that is destructive to the souls of anyone who belongs to it.
The Germans are clever. Here we’d thought they were giving way to Islam - but apparently they’ve infected it with Liberalism.
More like boiling oil. This will NOT turn out well. Time for a name change, Sven!
Good! Reminds me of how the Borg in ST:TNG got infected with individualism....
who/what the hell's a Muhammad?
interesting and life threatening for the guy.
I'd say its harder understanding why he was such a success.
.....well, well...seems like someone in Germany "gets it".
some religions; over time, seems to degenerate into a "baseless/nihilist " form...only to be revitalized
....Islam haven't ever, faced the Challenge....still in the 8th century (socially).
I can live with that.
islam is no more a religion than nazism was and it should be treated identically.
L
And the Muslims want to integrate into German society???
On the question of a historical Mohammad, since Islam is such a well designed Medieval warrior's religion, I would believe he did exist.
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