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Dog Owner Sentenced For Fatal 2001 SF Mauling [Lawyer gets 15 years to life.]
cbs5, KPIX ^ | CBS 5 / AP / BCN

Posted on 09/22/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by familyop

Marjorie Knoller was originally sentenced in 2002 to four years in prison after a judge reduced a jury's conviction of second-degree murder to involuntary manslaughter...Trial evidence showed that Whipple suffered 77 wounds from the 150- and 130-pound dogs and lost one-third of her blood.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bull; canario; pit; pitbulls; presa
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Presa Demand Grows for All Wrong Reasons

Dogs wanted for killing, fighting
San Francisco Chronicle
Jim Herron Zamora, Mark Martin, Chronicle Staff Writers
Wednesday, February 7, 2001

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But breeders say the notoriety has caused just the opposite: more calls from people looking for killer canines. "They want a pit bull on steroids," said Mac Harris...For now, Presa Canario breeders, who tout their canines as lovable and loyal, are rattled by the creepy callers.



1 posted on 09/22/2008 2:43:39 PM PDT by familyop
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Ping.


2 posted on 09/22/2008 2:44:48 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: familyop

Part of the danger of being heterosexual in San Fransico are horrid accidents like this turn into criminal charges if the accident victim is part of the sacred class of homosexuals.

Bit like Duke University, except instead of blacks, it’s gays.


3 posted on 09/22/2008 2:46:02 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: familyop
But breeders say the notoriety has caused just the opposite: more calls from people looking for killer canines. "They want a pit bull on steroids," said Mac Harris...For now, Presa Canario breeders, who tout their canines as lovable and loyal, are rattled by the creepy callers.

The explanation is simple - drug dealers face hard Federal felony time for possession of a gun, but there's no sentence enhancement for possession of a vicious dog.

4 posted on 09/22/2008 2:46:57 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: familyop
Good, I hope it stands.
5 posted on 09/22/2008 2:48:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Control your dogs and make sure they do not maul and kill anyone and you should stay out of prison. However, if you permit your dogs to murder people, you are a murderer and must do the time.


6 posted on 09/22/2008 2:50:04 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: familyop

“Horrid Accident”? It should have been second a degree murder conviction. Good bless the memory of Diane Whipple.


7 posted on 09/22/2008 2:51:40 PM PDT by PC99
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To: MeanWestTexan
Your prejudices have you getting it backwards.

There were 150 tapes on site of Marjorie Knoller having sex with the dogs. IIRC, the victim was straight.

8 posted on 09/22/2008 2:53:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: familyop

The answer isn’t banning a particular breed of dog. The thugs will just move onto a different type of dog to use for aggressive purposes. I read about this breed just recently and wondered if it might be the next dog of choice.


9 posted on 09/22/2008 2:56:11 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: familyop

This will be moved to chat for some reason.


10 posted on 09/22/2008 2:58:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: MeanWestTexan

It might seem to be a little off-topic, but here’s a reply regarding Noah’s time and before (i.e., for everyone).

Excerpts from The Seven Laws for everyone:

3. Respect human life, and do not murder.

4. Respect the family, and do not commit immoral sexual acts such as adultery, homosexuality, bestiality or incest.

6. Create a judicial system that will uphold the other six laws and pursue justice.

7. Respect all creatures, and do not eat the flesh of a living animal (meaning the removal and eating of flesh from a live animal).

And an unauthorized opinion from a stranger (me). People who walk by the homes of dangerous beasts should be permitted to openly carry weapons capable of killing the beasts and only for defense. Granted, such weapons might scare the owners of the monsters. But then, don’t such owners obtain such beasts also for the purpose of scaring others?

“...without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;” —Joint Resolution of the United States Congress, March 20, 1991
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.ENR:


11 posted on 09/22/2008 3:00:18 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Huh? These people had a couple of large vicious dogs that terrorized the building. It was the victim’s misfortune to live on the same floor and be in the hallway when the dogs, who were with the female owner who was not strong enough to hold them back, attacked. Whether the victim was gay or not doesn’t matter.

The owners should have been locked away a long time ago. As for the heterosexual part, the owners were apparently into bestiality and made videos with their dogs.


12 posted on 09/22/2008 3:01:48 PM PDT by livius
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To: familyop
Is this legal? She was sentenced for 4 years and served three and then the charges were changed and years added to her sentence? Sounds close to double jeopardy to me.
13 posted on 09/22/2008 3:02:15 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Carry_Okie; MeanWestTexan
The deceased was a homosexual.

The deceased still did not deserve to be mauled to death for 10 minutes and to lie there on the floor bleeding out while the defendant did nothing to stop her animals and did not call 911.

The defendant is a murderer, plain and simple. The owner is also a complete degenerate, as well as being a neo-Nazi.

The deceased weighed 120 lbs. The dogs that ripped her into pieces weighed 140 and 100 lbs respectively.

She had no chance and no warning.

14 posted on 09/22/2008 3:03:53 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: MeanWestTexan
......horrid accidents like this turn into criminal charges.....

MWT, you got it bass-ackwards. The owners of these two killerbeasts are weirdo lawyers with really freaky clients, with whom they were conducting some sort of killer-dog breeding business, while their clients were doing very serious time. It was not the first time the dogs had gone after someone. In fact, the victim had already reported them. The Presa Canario and the Dogo Argentino are becoming status symbols of the rich,warped, tatooed, and pierced crowd. They make good meth lab watchdogs. Not pets.

15 posted on 09/22/2008 3:03:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Drill. Double Refining Capacity. Make METHANOL from Coal, NG, Nuclear ..let's roll.)
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To: familyop

Before and after photo of Whipple, R rated.
Click here: http://judicial-inc.biz/n..dia50.jpg


16 posted on 09/22/2008 3:05:01 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: livius

Oh, I agree they needed to go to jail, but “second-degree murder” -— that’s INTENT TO KILL.

This would be involuntary manslaughter, just like the judge ruled -— until the homosexual lobby got all upset.


17 posted on 09/22/2008 3:05:57 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: wideawake

It should have been involuntary manslaughter, not MURDER.


18 posted on 09/22/2008 3:06:45 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Wish it was Palin/McCain)
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To: Pinkbell
"The answer isn’t banning a particular breed of dog."

Indeed...this shows the futility of breed specific legislation. The irresponsibel owner should get hammered in a case like this, and indeed it looks like that just may happen. Of course, idiot legislators will wring their hands and ban Pit bulls, then Presas, then Dogo Argentinos, then Rotts, then Mastiffs, then Shepherds, and whatever the media dog du jour, becomes.

19 posted on 09/22/2008 3:08:21 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CindyDawg
Is this legal? She was sentenced for 4 years and served three and then the charges were changed and years added to her sentence? Sounds close to double jeopardy to me.

The charges were not "changed." She was indicted by a grand jury on charges of involuntary manslaughter and for second-degree murder.

She was convicted by a jury on both charges.

The judge in the trial overturned the second-degree murder conviction on a technicality.

The prosecutor appealed the judge's arrogant overturnming of the jury verdict.

The prosecutor won the appeal and she will now serve the prison time that a corrupt judge tried to sneak her out of.

20 posted on 09/22/2008 3:08:43 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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