Is it just me, or does it seem like there are a lot of polls recently which suggest Obama is rebounding, yet the anecdotal and other evidences “on the ground” suggest just the opposite?
Well, polls don’t always measure enthusiasm. Despite all the media attempts to demoralize the GOP base, it hasn’t worked so far as is evidenced by the rally attendance.
Who are you going to believe, the trusted MSM polls or your lying eyes?
Obama’s people are certainly doing a terrible job by any standards, but they are smart enough to look at the party ID section of polls and re-weight accordingly. When you do that with Gallup, for instance, you get a 6 pt. McCain lead nationally. They are also doing constant polling and seeing demographic trends that we are only seeing bits and pieces of.
Obama’s people are certainly doing a terrible job by any standards, but they are smart enough to look at the party ID section of polls and re-weight accordingly. When you do that with Gallup, for instance, you get a 6 pt. McCain lead nationally. They are also doing constant polling and seeing demographic trends that we are only seeing bits and pieces of.
Eeeeexxxxxactly!
What a crack up. They can spin, but they can’t bus out people to every event.
Other thing to think about: If Obama was as close in NC as some polls show, he wouldn’t have just closed all offices in GA, because being close in NC would move you within shooting distance in GA, and other southern states.
All of these stories that have come out about racists not voting for Obama has given lefty pollsters cover to inflate his performance in the polls. When they are off by 6% it will be said that it is the Bradley effect.
“Is it just me, or does it seem like there are a lot of polls recently which suggest Obama is rebounding, yet the anecdotal and other evidences “on the ground” suggest just the opposite?”
-I get that feeling, too. That is why I said on another thread that this reminded me a lot of 1980. That year, the press kept telling us that Carter and Reagan were neck and neck but all the anecdotal evidence said otherwise. The charade continued up to election night until they called it for Reagan. It was the weirdest thing, like 1984 where they keep telling you 2+2 is 5 but you know otherwise.
No, not just you, I've noticed that too! I think the MSM and the pollsters are cooking the results!
Yes, the national polling just doesn’t add up.. something’s going on.
Even with the national polls showing fauxbama gaining support in his number of votes, when you look at the internals you see he’s lost support across every demographic group, including DEMOCRATS... yet somehow he’s gaining in the polls? Something isn’t adding up in these national polls folks.
The reality is is Fauxbama is collapsing, the real battleground right now is the rust belt, PA, MI, WI and MN, any one of those states goes to McCain and Fauxbama can’t win, period.
Its looking more and more like Fauxbama will lose more than one of those states. I have always thought that he would lose at least 2 of the 3 (MI,PA and WI), and if with MN now looking realistically like its in play, there’s a good chance that he may lose 3 if not all 4 of these states.
Dems may be able to rally the machine enough in MN to keep it from flipping, but WI, MI and PA are in play, and PA is already lost to Fauxbama as far as I’m concerned.
Fauxbama must keep everything Kerry got and pick up 19. The only state pick up wise for him that looks like it MIGHT hold is IA (and that’s mainly due to ethanol subsidies) and possibly CO, which I’m not sure he’s going to be able to hold till election day... that gives him 16 new EC votes Kerry didn’t have, So even if he holds all the Kerry states and gets those additional 16, he’s still not going to win.
Fuaxbama however is not looking at all like he’s going to hold the Kerry states. No other republican state is going to change, VA is not going to flip, FL and OH are not going to flip, nor is IN. NH (5 votes) may very well go R, PA,MI,WI and MN at least 1 of these will go R (And I believe at least 2) The least electorially is 10 (WI) the most PA (21). WA is in play as well out there on the west coast, and I think a lot of the MSM are going to wake up to this fact, in about 2-3 weeks, unless something drastically changes. That theft of the governorship 4 years ago is going to bite back hard on the dems, costing them up and down the ticket there.
Obama has peaked. He is off of his inspirational message and now just sounds like a run of the mill politician. He is not inspiring people to wait for hours for his speeches like they did earlier. These folks won’t wait for hours in lines to vote for him either. He’s toast.
It’s not just you. Something doesn’t smell right about the national polls.
It’s not just you......I’m feeling cautiously optimistic after reading several stories today.
Ive noticed that too...not sure what it means. Ive been looking at the poll results mid week and there seems to be a stronger trend there. One thing is puzzling is Obama is getting smaller and smaller crowds.
It would help if McCain/Palin got some help form some Republican Senators but we know what kind of spine they have.
Because these polls are using registered voters from the primaries and Operation Chaos screwed up there old formulas . People lie to pollster when race is involved.
Finally many of these subcontractor polls are just garbage cooked up to suit the demands of such customers as CBS, ABC, Wash Compost, El Reuters, ONN ( aka CNN), NBC, The NY Slimes propaganda needs.
After last night’s Cowboys-Packers game they were probably all too depressed to go.
I think the internal polls are saying something different. Thus the candidates are responding. Florida, Wis, PA, OH, CO MI I think are all showing wins in reach of either candidate and that’s why they’re going there.
I think Obama has peaked and we will see his numbers start to fade here going into the first debate even or with McCain slightly ahead.
I mean how can you have 20,000 turn out in VA and then 60,000 + in FL and 11,000 in CO and the same in MI and not see some movement in the polls?
I admit...I like it when John McCain is leading in the polls. But even then I don't trust the polls.
The polls are so overweighted with dems that it is clear that McCain is still at full strength while the O-dummy is sinking.
The pollsters love a horse race so they adjust accordingly.
It isn't just you. The polls and media are trying to discourage McCain/Palin voters, and encourage Obama voters. The differences in crowds being attracted by each campaign is a clear indicator that Obama is sinking like a rock.