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Size starts to matter: Ohio gives McCain-Palin a big crowd
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | September 16, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 09/16/2008 1:23:30 PM PDT by Salena Zito

VIENNA, OHIO -- You have to wonder with just 49 days left until election day, what is Sen. John McCain doing in Ohio's Mahoning Valley again?

It's not like there is a history of Republicans winning here. George W. Bush was only able to muster a little more than 36 percent of the vote in 2004, up 1 percent from 2000, when Bush went against Al Gore.

This rust-belt, blue-collar community with a heavy Democratic voter registration advantage has seen better times -- the steel industry is gone, replaced by a lower income service industry. The medium income hovers at $23,000 a year and nearly 30 percent of the residents live below the poverty line -- not exactly a Republican fertile area.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Michigan; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
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To: theDentist

That is almost a slur


41 posted on 09/16/2008 2:18:22 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: ari-freedom
then mccain comes in, makes it clear that he does know what’s going on in wall street, then points out that Obama is in Hollywood with his friends.

did he really say that? tell me he did! i was impressed with his speech in Tampa today... talked about earmarks... pulled out a pen and said he would veto bills loaded with pork...

42 posted on 09/16/2008 2:25:18 PM PDT by latina4dubya (self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: ari-freedom
I’m saying that a McCain/Palin ticket has a lot more to offer than Bush/Cheney.

I agree completely. But I do think that Palin offers the stronger appeal of that duo.

43 posted on 09/16/2008 2:25:51 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what hall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Prole

You missed putting Clinton in that picture.


44 posted on 09/16/2008 2:33:38 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Salena Zito
Ha ha. This is too much fun. The latest is a video from a Hippie-waste-of-oxygen showing a morbid fear of the GOP ticket, likening McCain to Cotton Hill and Palin to Peggy Hill. That is another great reason to vote for them. Of course, in real life, the two KOTH characters despised each other. It could only get better if they found a way to wedge in ol' Hank Hill.
45 posted on 09/16/2008 2:36:55 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: latina4dubya

he even mentioned barbra streisand!

then he said something like “but I’d rather be here with you Ohio”
Every time Obama tries to raise money, it will be used against him because he’ll look like an elitist that’s out of touch


46 posted on 09/16/2008 2:38:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: arrogantsob

Incomes come in small, medium or large. Whats your point?


47 posted on 09/16/2008 2:41:07 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: stripes1776
He neglected FL. What a mess that was.

That was because the MSM called FLA early and suppressed the vote--otherwise it is no contest
48 posted on 09/16/2008 2:48:54 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: kesg
while Gore spent his time in Pennsylvania and Florida.

Bet Gore wished Elian Conzalez hadn't spent time in FLA
49 posted on 09/16/2008 2:52:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Antoninus

“Brains and beauty are a great combo!”

Seems to be a lot of this lately.


50 posted on 09/16/2008 2:53:10 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: uncbob
That was because the MSM called FLA early and suppressed the vote--otherwise it is no contest

If Bush had been ahead 5 points, the MSM would not have had any motivation to call the race early. The vote was close. Perhaps the Republican party has learned to concentrate resources in states that are close and forget about long shots like CA and NY.

51 posted on 09/16/2008 2:58:59 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what hall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Salena Zito

They oughta have voter registration booths set up at every one of these events.


52 posted on 09/16/2008 3:01:23 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: stripes1776

Why was it so close in 2000?

Joe Lieberman.

Enough said.


53 posted on 09/16/2008 3:03:50 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: stripes1776
Does anyone know the crowd number at the rally for the BIG ZERO today? How about OLD WIND BAG Biden?!
54 posted on 09/16/2008 3:04:01 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Crimson Elephant
VA, PA, MI, OH, MI, FL, IA, WI....IN, and MO....is where they should target.

CA, NY, WA, OR...are Dim waste-lands.

MOLON LABE

55 posted on 09/16/2008 3:07:51 PM PDT by Osage Orange (We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. - Obama)
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To: ModelBreaker

“Palin is a threefer. Etc...”

Good post.


56 posted on 09/16/2008 3:08:13 PM PDT by Canedawg (Sarah Palin Rocks. McCain-Palin '08)
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To: mwl8787

No, he let the DNC/media — and I apologize for the redundancy — spring that DUI thing on him at the last minute. Dumb, dumb, dumb...and but for 527 votes in Florida, it would have been a fatal mistake.


57 posted on 09/16/2008 3:08:13 PM PDT by kesg
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To: Salena Zito

Do you have a ping list for your articles?


58 posted on 09/16/2008 3:15:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. ( DBM)
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To: Salena Zito

Biden gets the high school crowd like he did in Macomb County yesterday.

http://thomasalamb.blogspot.com/2008/09/comparing-vps-battle-of-youtubes.html

What else is interesting is as reported in the local newspaper for the Macomb County it is found that:

“...Also in attendance were South Lake High School students, most of whom are not old enough to vote in November. But that technicality didn’t seem to dampen their enthusiasm.”

http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/091608/loc_local03.shtml

The newspaper had a figure of 1200 in attendance and if you go to South Lake high school you will find student enrollment for the high school is at 881 students.

http://www.trulia.com/schools/MI-Saint_Clair_Shores/South_Lake_High_School/

Betcha you won’t find that out in the MSM.

What it comes down to is Palin is kicking Biden’s butt on the trail.

Ms. Zito, she is the real deal when it comes to reform. Do you have an e-mail address to send info?


59 posted on 09/16/2008 3:15:53 PM PDT by earmarksrus
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To: stripes1776
That field varies from state to state. It is better to spend resources in those states where the race is tight or close. Forget states like New York or New Jersey. And I don't think McCain is so stupid that he would spend much time in Kahlifohrneeya.

My understanding is that the professionals have a chart of sorts -- something like the one that tells football coaches when to go for the two point conversion -- about what states to comapaign in. It is all tied to the candidate's lead in the national polls, as well as recent actual election history.

NJ really isn't in play for McCain unless he is leading by about 9 points nationally. In reality, he is probably leading by about 4-5 points among likely voters -- enough to put NJ in play (as evidenced by recent polling there) but not yet enough to justify McCain pouring any significant resources into that state. And if he is leading nationally by a large enough margin to make NJ as close as two or three points, he is already leading in enough states to get him the 270 EV he needs anyway.

So, McCain is best off consolidating his gains in places like Ohio and taking the fight to Obama in places that are purple or barely blue (such as Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and especially Michigan). In a three point election like 2004, these states are barely blue. But in a five or six point election, these states will turn red (albeit barely) and NJ will turn very light blue or even purple.

60 posted on 09/16/2008 3:18:11 PM PDT by kesg
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