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On Sex-ed Ad, McCain is Right
National Review ^ | 9/16/2008 | Byron York

Posted on 09/16/2008 11:42:39 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

In recent days, a consensus has developed among the Obama campaign and commentators in the press that John McCain has decided to lie his way to the White House. Exhibit A in this new consensus is McCain’s ad, released last week, claiming that Barack Obama’s “one accomplishment” in the field of education was “legislation to teach ‘comprehensive sex education’ to kindergartners.”

Within moments of the ad’s appearance, the Obama campaign called it “shameful and downright perverse.” The legislation in question, a bill in the Illinois State Senate that was supported but not sponsored by Obama, was, according to Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton, “written to protect young children from sexual predators” and had nothing to do with comprehensive sex education for kindergartners. (snip)

Newspaper, magazine, and television commentators quickly piled on. “The kindergarten ad flat-out lies,” wrote the New York Times, arguing that “at most, kindergarteners were to be taught the dangers of sexual predators.”

The condemnation has been so widespread that the Obama campaign has begun to sense success in placing the “McCain-is-a-liar” storyline in the press. But before accepting the story at face value, it might first be a good idea to examine the bill in question, look at the statements made by its supporters at the time it was introduced, talk to its sponsors today (at least the ones who will consent to speak), and find answers to a few basic questions. What were the bill’s provisions? Why was it written? Was it really just, or even mostly, about inappropriate advances? And the bottom-line question: Is McCain’s characterization of it unfair? (snip

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; electionads; kindergarten; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; sexed
And the bottom line answer is "Yes" the ad is fair. This was sex education straight from the liberal condoms/cucumbers public school union lobby playbook, and it changed existing law from grade 6-12 to Kindergarten-12! Byron York examines the actual bill, it's sponsors and supporters.

While ads about lipstick and sex-ed don't equate with violations of the Logan Act, they all point to how much of an audacious liar Barack Obama is.

1 posted on 09/16/2008 11:42:40 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

Well, the ad is not honest because the kindergarden program was about avoiding bad touching.

But after what they did Sarah Palin’s kids, it just doesn’t bother me as much.


2 posted on 09/16/2008 11:45:03 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Direct link to the bill:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=3&GA=93&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=99&GAID=3&LegID=734&SpecSess=&Session


3 posted on 09/16/2008 11:53:19 AM PDT by waus
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To: gondramB

Read the article.


4 posted on 09/16/2008 11:54:42 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: gondramB

Did you read the article?????? It disputes your claim.

I am so sick of the DBM lying for Obama!


5 posted on 09/16/2008 11:55:14 AM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK!!!)
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To: gondramB
That's just the talking point from the media. From Byron York's article (long, but worth reading):

"Senate Bill 99 struck out grade six, changing it to kindergarten, in addition to making a few other changes in wording. It read: Each class or course in comprehensive sex education in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.

This was sex ed, not "avoiding bad touching". The only bill sponsor who would speak with York was Sen. Iris Martinez. Their exchange - "I (York) told Martinez that reading the bill, I just didn’t see it as being exclusively, or even mostly, about inappropriate touching. “I didn’t see it that way, either,” Martinez said."

Byron York's closing paragraph:

Obama’s explanation for his vote has been accepted by nearly all commentators. And perhaps that is indeed why he voted for Senate Bill 99, although we don’t know for sure. But we do know that the bill itself was much more than that. The fact is, the bill’s intention was to mandate that issues like contraception and the prevention of sexually-transmitted diseases be included in sex-education classes for children before the sixth grade, and as early as kindergarten. Obama’s defenders may howl, but the bill is what it is.

6 posted on 09/16/2008 12:01:30 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I have a problem with the ad, only in that it uses the word “accomplishment.” That denotes that the bill actually was passed and has the force of law - clearly, that isn’t so. There are better ways to phrase it that get the point across without getting into the grey areas of what constitutes an “accomplishment.”


7 posted on 09/16/2008 12:01:46 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: gondramB
you need to read the bill more thoroughly! From the bill: Each class or course in comprehensive sex 14 education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall 15 include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted 16 infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread 17 of HIV AIDS. Nothing in this Section prohibits instruction in 18 sanitation, hygiene or traditional courses in biology.
8 posted on 09/16/2008 12:03:10 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: gondramB
Well, the ad is not honest because the kindergarden program was about avoiding bad touching.

From the article:

According to the press release, Senate Bill 99 required that “if a public school teaches sex education, family life education, and comprehensive health education courses, all materials and instruction must be medically and factually accurate.” The bill’s main sponsor, Sen. Carol Ronen, was quoted saying, “It teaches students about the advantages of abstinence, while also giving them the realistic information they need about the prevention of an unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.” The release contained no mention of sexual predators or inappropriate touching.
Also from the article:
Senate Bill 99 struck out grade six, changing it to kindergarten, in addition to making a few other changes in wording. It read:
Each class or course in comprehensive sex education in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.
Also from the article:
The proposed bill eliminated all those passages ("value-based" statements emphasizing abstinence as the most effective means of avoiding pregnancy and STD's) and replaced them with wording like this:
Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.
Course material and instruction shall present the latest medically factual information regarding both the possible side effects and health benefits of all forms of contraception, including the success and failure rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV…
Also from the article:
After we discussed other aspects of the bill, I told Martinez that reading the bill, I just didn’t see it as being exclusively, or even mostly, about inappropriate touching. “I didn’t see it that way, either,” Martinez said. “It’s just more information about a whole variety of things that have to go into a sex education class, the things that are outdated that you want to amend with things that are much more current.”

So, I asked, you didn’t see it specifically as being about inappropriate touching?

“Absolutely not.”

So, according to the only sponsor of the bill that the reporter could get to talk about the bill, it was not primarily about "inappropriate touching". The bill DID expand the sex education program to include kindergarten, and did eliminate the emphasis on abstinence as the most effective means of avoiding pregnancy or STD's, and (also mentioned in the interview with the bill's sponsor) was influenced by input from Planned Parenthood.

Sounds to me as if the McCain ad is more honest than the Obama camp response to it.

9 posted on 09/16/2008 12:05:39 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Servant of the Cross

Tell that to that retard Bill O’Reilly - he keeps describing this ad as “false”, I’ve stopped watching his show because of this.

BFD, Barack Hussein Obama said “age appropriate”. He endorsed comprehensive sex ed for children as young as five and struck out language in the bill to put it off to sixth grade and up.


10 posted on 09/16/2008 12:09:50 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Baladas

The media have well and truely jumped the shark.


11 posted on 09/16/2008 12:18:52 PM PDT by absalom01 (Walk without rhythm, and you won't attract the Worm....)
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To: jurroppi1
Thats part of the problem. The public is not going to read the bill. Nor is the media.

McCain defended it today on MSNBC by saying “read the bill on my web site”. That won't cut it. Unless his campaign was prepared with detailed specifics, he should have never wasted money on the ad. There is tons of other material to go after Obambi on that can be driven home with smart soundbites.

12 posted on 09/16/2008 12:22:46 PM PDT by ReadyKW
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To: Servant of the Cross

Why should the state mandate that local districts have any sex ed at all in their curricula? Why can’t parents decide locally?


13 posted on 09/16/2008 12:51:16 PM PDT by Rippin
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To: Servant of the Cross

BTW, I think someone should also point out that the bill seems to eliminate all reference of marriage from sex education curricula.


14 posted on 09/16/2008 8:28:01 PM PDT by supercat
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To: ReadyKW

Agreed, there is also a simple and smart soundbite to cover this issue. Simply put, this bill changed the original wording from grades 6-12 to K-12 and provided specifically for comprehensive sex ed throughout all grade levels therein.

That is simple enough to understand and directly refutes what Obummer’s handlers are stating.


15 posted on 09/16/2008 8:40:00 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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