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Is the U.S. Going Broke?
Forbes ^ | 09/29/08 (issue date?) | Laurence J. Kotlikoff

Posted on 09/14/2008 10:45:28 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Is the U.S. Going Broke?

Laurence J. Kotlikoff 09.29.08, 12:00 AM ET

Now that the federal government has bailed out Fannie and Freddie, who's going to bail out the federal government? The federal government's takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac represents a huge financial tremor. These two institutions now issue 70% of Americans' mortgages. Their failure would have triggered a complete meltdown in housing and financial markets. So now Uncle Sam is on the hook for $5 trillion, consisting of corporate debt owed by those two institutions and mortgage debt guaranteed by them.

If only the government's total debt were that low. Uncle Sam, for all his righteous indignation, is, in fact, the father of all deceptive accounting. The government has arranged its budgeting to keep the great bulk of its liabilities off the books and out of sight.

The real liability facing our government is $70 trillion. This represents the present value difference between all the government's projected future spending obligations and all its projected future tax receipts. This fiscal gap takes into account Uncle Sam's need to service official debt--outstanding U.S. government bonds. But it also recognizes all our government's unofficial debts, including its obligation to the soon-to-be-retired baby boomers to pay their Social Security and Medicare benefits.

Given current policies, each of the 78 million boomers can expect, on average, to receive $50,000, in today's dollars, from these programs in each and every year of retirement. Multiply 78 million boomers by a $50,000 annual payment and you get close to $4 trillion per year. This helps you see why our nation's true indebtedness is so extraordinarily high.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accountinggimmick; banks; debt; economy; government; govwatch; housingbubble
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To: staytrue
Free trade, the internet, and service economies are doing really well.

Healthcare. #1 over the past 5 years.

21 posted on 09/14/2008 11:21:11 PM PDT by montag813 (www.BoycottUsWeekly.com | Fight the Smears)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
You could tell the housing market was getting out of control very easily.

Manhattan condo prices this spring were at records. I suspect that will soon no longer be the case.

22 posted on 09/14/2008 11:22:10 PM PDT by montag813 (www.BoycottUsWeekly.com | Fight the Smears)
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To: Pelham
This removed an important factor that discourages loan fraud. Those who don’t learn from history....

Do not forget Greenspan's role in this. In April 2004 he urged Americans to switch to ARMs to "take advantage of lower rates" (which he subsequently raised 14 times). He also pressured lenders to relax standard to increase the number of home loans (we saw how well that worked out).

23 posted on 09/14/2008 11:24:42 PM PDT by montag813 (www.BoycottUsWeekly.com | Fight the Smears)
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To: givemELL

Wow, great article. Thanks.

Very striking Roubini thinks that GS and JPM won’t survive and will have to be absorbed by commercial banks. I thought they might be healthy and survive. That is a shocker. At least he doesn’t have to worry about Merrill anymore...


24 posted on 09/14/2008 11:26:53 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What I can’t figure out is why has gold been falling? Should be going the other way.

The only reason I can see is because the dollar had gained.

Anyways, I can’t see anything to terrible happening because there isn’t a single country in the world save Canada that isn’t running up huge deficits and have next to zero growth.

I guess the super rich like Soros and Oprah are going to have to start spending that money. Use it or loose it.


25 posted on 09/14/2008 11:27:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Pelham

Brought to you by Republican Senator Phil Gramm and Republican Congressman Jim Leach. And yet, somehow, so many here think it was all some kind of a Soros-lead Rat conspiracy, or that only Clinton is to blame.


26 posted on 09/14/2008 11:30:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Is the U.S. Going Broke?"

Nah, we can always print more money. ;)
27 posted on 09/14/2008 11:38:29 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history. (Obama is his 2nd term))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Entitlements will destroy our government. If serious changes (cuts) are not made to entitlements we will go broke. That is the truth and few of our politicians admit it but most of them know it.

There is not one answer to fix it all but the “Balanced Budget Amendment” would be a great start.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 11:42:42 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: mkjessup

May as well, they print Euro’s like crazy. Seems to be the socialist thing to do. Gotta keep up with the Jones’s :o)


29 posted on 09/14/2008 11:43:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: CaspersGh0sts

I’m in Orange County and was able to enjoy a front row seat for all the craziness. In fact I’m still enjoying a front row seat, since the meltdown has plenty of room to go. My neighborhood is down 38% from the peak and I’m expecting a drop of at least another 28%. More if the pendulum swings beyond traditional lending ratios.


30 posted on 09/14/2008 11:47:37 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!!")
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To: montag813

Greenspan was giving very poor advice and adding fuel to the fire. But the problem never could have grown to the enormous size that it achieved without the financial innovations that repeal of Glass-Steagall enabled.


31 posted on 09/14/2008 11:51:11 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!!")
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To: volunbeer

Seriously, what has to happen, and it isn’t going to be easy, people have to cut back on spending credit and start saving, paying down debt.


32 posted on 09/14/2008 11:52:10 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Seriously, what has to happen, and it isn’t going to be easy, people have to cut back on spending credit and start saving, paying down debt.

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I agree 100%. Government, business, and individuals need to get out of debt. If we could do this the future would be brighter for our children.


33 posted on 09/14/2008 11:55:58 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

You’re quite right Phil Gramm was up to his eyeballs in creating this legislation. And his wife was employed by one of the exchanges that securitized the debt that his legislation promoted. I’m not saying there was anything unethical there, just that it looks bad. I think Gramm’s problem isn’t ethics it’s more of an ideological rigidity. His ideology ignored the fact that markets can be gamed for short term profit at the expense of the very survival of that market.


34 posted on 09/14/2008 11:58:19 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yes.

Next question?

35 posted on 09/14/2008 11:59:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: volunbeer

Heaven help those who are up their eyeballs in debt and barely eeking by from paycheck to paycheck if the RATS get in power. The chunk of their paychecks Obama is going to take in taxes will put an awful lot of people into bankruptcy.

Yet those same people will probably vote for him, hoping for a handout.


36 posted on 09/15/2008 12:03:21 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: TigerLikesRooster
As the great H. L. Mencken said, We're going to get the taxes we wanted. And good and hard.
37 posted on 09/15/2008 12:04:12 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Nathan Zachary

“What I can’t figure out is why has gold been falling? “

It’s a sign of deflation. Gold gets sold in order to raise cash. All asset classes fall in price in a deflation.


38 posted on 09/15/2008 12:04:47 AM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I don't see a unique or even interesting event here. There is nothing in financial history that is unique. Taxes will have to go up, spending down, or print money, or the economy will have to grow out of the debts.

The Federal US government has blown apart the economy at least four times. At the Revolution, the Civil War, the Depression and Jimmy Carter.

39 posted on 09/15/2008 12:12:43 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Pelham

Deflation? For the average blue collar worker, there’s nothing but inflation everywhere. Their buck just doesn’t go as far as it used to.

It’s the huge hike in oil markets that have screwed things up. Oil companies are sucking all the cash out of the economy and driving up consumer prices at the same time.

Inflation and deflation at the same time? Other metals have soared, so I don’t know if that’s it. unless its the government selling gold.


40 posted on 09/15/2008 12:21:36 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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