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Independents swing toward McCain
POLITICO ^ | 9/14/08 | JOHN P. AVLON

Posted on 09/14/2008 1:10:57 PM PDT by stevek1

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; independentvote; mccain; mccainpalin
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To: ConservativeMan55

Bush had a huge convention bounce and gave most of it back after the debates. Bush’s 2004 bounce was more of your typical bounce from a spate of good publicity.

I think McCain’s move now is far stronger, because it is built on the voters fundamental re-evaluation of the race. The publicity has not been good - the media has been pounding McCain/Palin nonstop, yet the bump remains. There is a concern that the sustained pounding will eventually have an effect.


21 posted on 09/14/2008 1:27:53 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Exactly. That’s why I keep saying it will be close, just like with Kerry. Not as close as Gore, but still, we are not all that much ahead today compared to those links you posted with Bush vs Kerry.
When did the Republican convention start in 2004?


22 posted on 09/14/2008 1:28:30 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: goldstategop

I feel so bad for Barry.


23 posted on 09/14/2008 1:29:17 PM PDT by rushmom (l)
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To: Keith in Iowa
It ain’t gonna be over ‘til Olberman & Chrissy M. consoling one another on election night.

Yikes! The mental image that conjures up!

24 posted on 09/14/2008 1:29:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Troopergate" - The Revenge of the Alaskan Good Old Boys Club.)
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To: goldstategop
This isn't a problem. Democrats are 45% of the population. Republicans are only 25%. Independents are 30%. So a 30 point lead among the independents still mean the Democrats will get 35% of that 30%.

45% + (35% x 30%) = 55.5%. Nothing to see here, McCain has definitely peaked. Oba Mao is just trying to pad his victory margin and down ticket. < / sarcasm >

25 posted on 09/14/2008 1:29:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: AirForceGeorge

“Seems obvious to me this Gallup poll was an outlier. No other polls confirmed there was such a big swing to McCain. “

The difference is Gallup doesn’t control by party. The other polls are spotting a 5 to 8% advantage for the Dems, right off the top.


26 posted on 09/14/2008 1:30:02 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: snarkytart

The 2004 Republican National Convention, the presidential nominating convention of the Republican Party of the United States, took place from August 30 to September 2,


27 posted on 09/14/2008 1:31:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Chet 99
I doubt. All the media's relentless, barrage non-stop negative pounding of Sarah has only boosted her popularity. The more they attack her, the more the ticket rises in the polls. The MSM should stop digging but they won't. Good news for our side!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

28 posted on 09/14/2008 1:32:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well said.


29 posted on 09/14/2008 1:32:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ConservativeMan55

It’s scary looking at that, because we are in the SAME place as in 2004. Colorado..toss up, PA showing Bush with SLIGHT lead.
lol
People forget.

We need to remember, this will be close.


30 posted on 09/14/2008 1:33:36 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Chet 99

I agree. These bumps we’re seeing for McCain are not just a fluke.


31 posted on 09/14/2008 1:33:58 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: stevek1
"The Bush administration is deeply disliked by many independents and centrists because they feel duped. Bush campaigned in 2000 with an explicitly centrist message as a “compassionate conservative,” but he governed as a polarizing partisan conservative..." after a deceptive war was declared on him by Soros, Gore, Kerry, and the media.
32 posted on 09/14/2008 1:34:03 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: Chet 99
With all that Democratic voter registration advantage and a fawning media in its corner, the Democratic ticket still cannot manage to vault to the top of the polls! Something to think about!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 09/14/2008 1:35:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: snarkytart

I agree.

There were also posts I found that showed Bush possibly winning New York, Oregon and Washington.

Just like today


34 posted on 09/14/2008 1:35:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: stevek1
...the preamble to McCain reframing the Republican Party around national security, fiscal conservatism and corruption reform.

I'm still worried that those pigs in the House and Senate(GOP pigs) are going to continue to use public office to enrich themselves and screw over conservatism. There just aren't enough Jim Demints in there to balance out the Ted Stevens and Don Youngs.

35 posted on 09/14/2008 1:36:38 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Right. I remember Bush up or tied in NYC right after the Republican convention, which was in NYC.


36 posted on 09/14/2008 1:37:33 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ConservativeMan55

“This is serious business folks. We came way too close to having John Kerry as a President in 2004.”

True and we cannot afford to become complacent.


37 posted on 09/14/2008 1:37:39 PM PDT by sageb1 (Feminism is dead. Long live Palinism!)
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To: snarkytart
Here it is..

Could New York be battleground state in 04?
38 posted on 09/14/2008 1:39:00 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: sageb1

I agree.

I wish there was something more I could do to help out.

I don’t live in a battleground state. My state is solid red in every single county.


39 posted on 09/14/2008 1:42:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Olberman & Chrissy M. consoling one another on election night... in a bath house.


40 posted on 09/14/2008 1:46:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Eras will now be referred to as: BS: Before Sarah and AS: After Sarah)
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