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Independents swing toward McCain
POLITICO ^ | 9/14/08 | JOHN P. AVLON

Posted on 09/14/2008 1:10:57 PM PDT by stevek1

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCain has opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; independentvote; mccain; mccainpalin
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1 posted on 09/14/2008 1:10:57 PM PDT by stevek1
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Three words: IT'S OVER, BABY! Not with a 15 point deficit among independents does a Democrat win a national election. Remember those three words in November!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/14/2008 1:14:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: stevek1
To reconnect with independent voters, Obama needs to hammer home that a Republican victory would reward the kind of right-wing partisan hackery embodied by Monica Goodling, the Justice Department aide who acknowledged "crossing the line" in questioning prospective hires about their political beliefs...
Hey! Now there's a plan for zerObama!

Run against Monica Goodling!

That oughta wrap up the election nice and tight!

Go, zerO, go!

3 posted on 09/14/2008 1:16:06 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: stevek1

This could be very significant. It’s going to be the independents and moderate/centrist voters who decide this election. If people in the middle are going so strongly for McCain/Palin, then Obama/Biden are in big trouble.

The polls are still close, but the trends are clear. I am not dreaming of a landslide, but am cautiously optimistic.


4 posted on 09/14/2008 1:16:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: stevek1

Wait, wait, in the immortal words of each and every Lib TV talking head: “Take a deep breath. These polls are meaningless...” Repeat as often as necessary. (They are so in the tank it’s sickening.)


5 posted on 09/14/2008 1:17:15 PM PDT by hershey
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To: samtheman

A lot of independents are conservative. I guess the writer of this article doesn’t understand.


6 posted on 09/14/2008 1:17:23 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: stevek1

It is interesting what happens when you put a real conservative on the ticket. It proves Rush and Ann right when they have said time and again that it would only take a real conservative to wake this country up to the level of 1980. I wanted to believe it, but I had serious doubts. It was beginning to look like the “Reagan Revolution” was watered down and disappearing. From all we are seeing with the addition of Gov. Palin and the resulting euphoric enthusiasm injected into the campaign, “Rush is right” yet again.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 1:17:29 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (REMEMBER every vote counts toward the "mandate"... ALL VOTES ARE NEEDED!)
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To: samtheman
Just run as a partisan! Do it! That's the best advice I've heard all year. Run harder against McCain, Hit him harder, baby, hit him harder! (laughing)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 09/14/2008 1:17:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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>>>Three words: IT’S OVER, BABY!

No, it ain’t over. Not by a long shot. It ain’t gonna be over ‘til Olberman & Chrissy M. consoling one another on election night.


9 posted on 09/14/2008 1:20:19 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Screw the media - Vote McCain-Palin.)
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To: stevek1

Is this a new Gallup poll today, or is he analyzing the week old one?


10 posted on 09/14/2008 1:20:19 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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>>>Three words: IT’S OVER, BABY!

No, it ain’t over. Not by a long shot. It ain’t gonna be over ‘til Olberman & Chrissy M. consoling one another on election night.


11 posted on 09/14/2008 1:21:22 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Screw the media - Vote McCain-Palin.)
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These polls look great... but I've been looking in the FR archives.

Let's play like we're ten points behind.. while enjoying these polls. And not let them make us complacent.

Bush APPARENTLY leads Kerry in pre-debate poll (Liberal bias alert: CNN questions its own poll)

Bush/Kerry Tied in "Blue" or Gore States, Bush Crushes Gender Gap... (Gallup Internals)

Poll: Bush widening lead over Kerry in North Carolina (doubled)

Poll Shows Bush With Solid Lead - Despite Worries, Voters Cite Lack of Clarity From Kerry

Bush sharpens jabs against Kerry

Kerry Pins Hopes in Iowa on Big Vote From Absentees [heads up]

Poll Shows Bush With Solid Lead

Electoral College Breakdown (So where does the electoral college stand right now?)04

Kerry sinking...ABC News and Gallup polls shows Bush with lead

I have many more of these...

12 posted on 09/14/2008 1:21:58 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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John P. Avlon
Author, Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics

He is a columnist and associate editor for The New York Sun and worked as chief speechwriter for former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani. He was Director of Speechwriting and Deputy Policy Director for Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign


13 posted on 09/14/2008 1:22:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: snarkytart
While most independents can be described as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, the Bush administration has been the opposite: fiscally liberal and socially conservative.

Not a universal rule, certainly, but I think there a lot of truth in this.

14 posted on 09/14/2008 1:23:38 PM PDT by shteebo
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To: stevek1

JOHN P. AVLON

15 posted on 09/14/2008 1:23:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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Seems obvious to me this Gallup poll was an outlier. No other polls confirmed there was such a big swing to McCain. While obviously McCain gained amongst independents all the other polls seemed to show substantial but more modest numbers.

This is a perfect example of journalists being irresponsible with polls. It is one poll and analyzing one poll too much is never smart. Since it is the USAToday/Gallup poll and one of the most respected it has driven news coverage immensely.

This has worked great for McCain as it has painted his convention and especially the pick of Palin as major successes at a critical time for Palin. If we had seen bad polling after the Palin pick the media would have declared Palina disaster and a Quayle pick. Luckily, they have to at least concede the point that policitally she has been a good pick while they try to destroy her.

But a responsible journalist would take all the polls into account and tine down the rhetoric. When the next USAToday/Gallup poll comes out and is more in line with reality it may very well turn the press coverage. And they will find any negative aspect of the McCain campaign and link it up further driving negative news coverage for McCain.

16 posted on 09/14/2008 1:24:00 PM PDT by AirForceGeorge
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So are we soon going to see Obama out hunting in camoflauge?

This is serious business folks. We came way too close to having John Kerry as a President in 2004.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 1:24:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: stevek1

Obama: He could have been great, but he wasn’t very good.


18 posted on 09/14/2008 1:24:32 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Check out a state by state breakdown of where we were in 2004.

State by state breakdown in 04
19 posted on 09/14/2008 1:26:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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Most self-described “moderates” will be won over by sincere, principled conservatives every single time. Republicans will not win votes by qualifying themselves as being “compassionate” or by being more like ‘Rats. McCain himself admitted it by saying “we lost our way”. Republicans win votes by being more Republican. Call it the “Palin Effect”.


20 posted on 09/14/2008 1:26:58 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Sarah Palin makes me tingly.)
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