Posted on 09/07/2008 6:49:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
ELDORADO, Texas — When a grand jury meets here later this month, criminal indictments could be handed down against more members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church.
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Some of that evidence has been used in child-custody cases over the hundreds of FLDS children taken into state protective custody during the raid. Texas Child Protective Services has said it has evidence of at least 10 underage marriages. A CPS caseworker testified during a court hearing last week that an investigation revealed "48 percent of the men at the ranch were involved in underage marriage practices."
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"Sheriff Doran advised affiant that Becky Musser has provided him with information regarding the FLDS on more than 100 occasions over the past four years, including as recently as April 8, 2008, and that, on each occasion, that information has proven to be reliable, true and correct," Wilson wrote in the probable cause statement.
Becky Musser is a sister of Elissa Wall, who was the star witness in Utah's case against Jeffs. Musser also testified at the trial and was married to Jeffs' father, Rulon, when she was a teenager.
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The FLDS Church and some of its members have filed legal challenges to have the search warrants and any evidence tossed. A hearing has been scheduled Oct. 1.
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
I guess we will have to wait until the hearing to see.
Correct. The men are required to have as many children as possible. That’s why they need young girls. The whole system revolves around providing young girls for the top guys in the cult.
The whole cult is taught to lie to the authorities because outsiders are part of Satan’s conspiracy to destroy them. That’s why the children are so desparate to get back into the cult. Their eternal salvation depends on being in the cult.
If her information has been reliable, true and correct. Then why didn't the CPS take the one child that may have been in danger and the Sheriff simply arrest 48% of the men from the start?
Absolutely not. As long as they acytually have factual evidence this time.
I would like to see equal vigor in prosecuting all underage, unwed pregnacies caused by adult males.
Years ago a buddy of mine got a job in Naptown running down gas line leaks. He discovered that most of the lines in the black areas of the city had leaks sufficient enough to kill all the grass and shrubbery in the lawns.
He deduced it wasn't so much the children running everything, but the gas "burning" it out.
Another rule of thumb ~ people who send their kids outside to play seem to have more children than those who keep their kids inside glued to the TV or the videogames.
What we need are some census data to show us that any specific ethnic group is "churning out kids" at a greater rate than any other ethnic group, or that welfare mothers are proliferating faster than we might otherwise imagine.
Numbers, numbers, numbers ~ who has got the numbers?
You may not like the process set in place by the law to deal with the rights of children, but there it is. It's not unconstitutional.
I strongly suspect it's much closer to 12 than 400.
If they follow old'time Apostolic Charismatic Church of the First Born rules, you could have one child per possible "couple", and end up with numbers of miscreants equal to the entire adult population in the Texas camp.
That's why the thousands of family court judges in this country have not been sending you reports on the situation.
Why don’t you ask them?
susie
I would like to see that too, so why do you bring it up here?
susie
I was going to make the point that there was no legal marriage involved, the crime is statutory rape, or it's equivalent in Texas, but I see others have replied to this point. So I say again, "Git a rope!"
Being “involved” in an underage “marriage” is pretty vague.
Maybe they are counting the “fathers” who are pimping their baby girls out as being involved.
Well, that, and the mothers, although we haven’t yet heard about the mothers.
When I said "which guys" I was implying that many could NOT be 'identified' if they wanted to be!
Yup...
Until then - it’s mere speculation.
Huh?
How do the 'gaslines' know who lives above them?
What a ridiculous question. Everybody in the country knows that the black parts of town were pretty generally the OLDEST parts of town.
The children were abducted, removed from their homes by force. The adult males were allowed to remain at home.
If need further help, just let me know.
That’s a moronic response. When the government can violate Constitutional rights with impunity, then those rights no longer exist.
We’re those children removed for sixty days improperly? The answer is yes. Were the government perpetrators prosecuted? No.
Your twisting of due process and Constitutional rights or guarantees are childish. And yes, those Constitutional rights are guarantees, even if you can’t quite grasp it.
Why? I saw their illegal, unconstitutional and immoral actions. What is there to ask?
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