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Obama considered joining military, regrets abortion answer
The Politico ^

Posted on 09/07/2008 6:32:38 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama considered joining military, regrets abortion answer By: Mike Allen September 7, 2008 09:11 AM EST

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) says his answer about abortion at the Saddleback Church forum was “probably” too flip.

During separate televised interviews last month, Pastor Rick Warren asked the two presidential candidates when a baby gets human rights. Obama replied that the question is “above my pay grade,” while Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) won love from the right by saying quickly, “At the moment of conception.”

Now, Obama tells ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview taped for “This Week”: “What I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about understanding when does the soul enter into … It's a pretty tough question. And so, all I meant to communicate was that I don't presume to be able to answer these kinds of theological questions.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; obama; obamabiden; obamatruthfile; saddleback
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds to me like he is even more likely to need a poll to be taken before answering a question than Bill Clinton was.

“When does life begin?” It’s a personal question about your beliefs - anyone can answer this. If you are firmly grounded in your faith, then it gets even easier.

What he is really means to say this time is “Since I didn’t know the uh proper uh theological answer, and uh I wasn’t able to get uh help from the audience the way they do on uh TV uh game shows, I said that I uh, uh did not know because I am just the uh president - I mean a presidential candidate, not someone who is being paid to make hard decisions yet. That is why it is uh above my uh pay grade.”


121 posted on 09/07/2008 7:44:59 AM PDT by DataDink
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To: Sub-Driver

Did Obama mention whose military he was thinking of joining?


122 posted on 09/07/2008 7:46:22 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: sitetest

I agree. Knowing that human life begins at conception is a scientific fact. Religion has nothing to do with that.


123 posted on 09/07/2008 7:47:06 AM PDT by therut
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To: tx_eggman
What I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about

Whenever somebody has to repeatedly pronounce what he /she is, usually they aren't what they proclaim they are.
124 posted on 09/07/2008 7:47:13 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Northern Yankee

“as a Christian”.....well he is a real convenient Christian since he discovered that church would help his career.

If he were a real Christian he wouldn’t have so much trouble figuring out when a life matters.


125 posted on 09/07/2008 7:47:25 AM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: Sub-Driver
And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”

Sounds like Hillary and her being turned down for the Marines. I guess the conclusion we are to draw from Obama's comments is that the only way he would join the military if there was a real shooting war going on. He really wanted some action and a peacetime military just didn't cut it. It is so easy to be courageous when you are Walter Mitty.

126 posted on 09/07/2008 7:48:59 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: EBH
The question at Saddleback was asked as a question of law. It asked when should human rights be recognized? Obama says he was a professor of constitutional law. This should be easy even for a normal pro-abort. The answer is at birth, for them. But Obama is so extreme that he can't answer it honestly. His true feelings would horrify the American people. That's why he answered a re-framed question. He still messed up.

I want to see above "my pay grade" in McCain ads.

127 posted on 09/07/2008 7:50:29 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Krankor
He appears to be saying that,given the chance, he would have enlisted to fight in the Viet Nam War.

At this point it seems he will say anything to appear to be what he is not - a patriotic American.

128 posted on 09/07/2008 7:50:31 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Obama considered joining military

Oh, he considered it, did he? Well, wup-de-doo. Lets clap our hands in applause and admiration. Of course, there's no proof of this and even if there was, so what? Its actions that matter, not transitory musings. If Obama ever considered the military, it was from the perspective of how to make it smaller and weaker and/or an object of derision. And that goes for Hillary ("I considered the Marine Corps") too. What a bunch of a$$ clowns.

129 posted on 09/07/2008 7:51:15 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course he regrets the abortion answer.

He made the remark and out walked
Sarah and Trig, Bristol and child.

Oh, and have I mentioned my teenage daughter gets blue in the face when she hears that comment of his.


130 posted on 09/07/2008 7:53:08 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Sub-Driver
LOL! And I considered once, building a rocket ship in my Dad's back yard and flying to the moon. I think that dream of a young boy was more achievable that Obama joining the Military.
131 posted on 09/07/2008 7:53:16 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Krankor

Yeah, right. I’m sure he would have gone willingly to Vietnam—except that he really meant North Vietnam accompanying Jane Fonda.


132 posted on 09/07/2008 7:53:42 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh, and I don’t believe for a minute he considered joining the military.


133 posted on 09/07/2008 7:54:35 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.

“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school.

OK, he's answered that question. But then again, we haven't gotten his authentic birth certificate. I'm holding my fire.

And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.

“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”

OK, lemme get this straight -- you considered going into the military, but decided not to BECAUSE the Vietnam War was OVER?

It's amazing how Obama can't answer any questions without raising a bunch more.

134 posted on 09/07/2008 7:57:57 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Palin: Ran a city, ran a state. Obama/Biden: Ran their mouths)
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To: Sub-Driver
Now, Obama tells ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview taped for “This Week”: “What I intended to say is that, as a Christian, I have a lot of humility about understanding when does the soul enter into … It's a pretty tough question. And so, all I meant to communicate was that I don't presume to be able to answer these kinds of theological questions.”

Doesn't say a darn tootin' thing different here. He again can't even give a straight answer by stopping midstream and then falling on "...it's a tough quwestion." The real question that Obama should have been asked was, "When do you believe a (fetus) feels physical pain?" or even "When do you believe a fetus has it's first thoughts/dreams? "Like all pro-choicers he can't answer that question because it leads to the tortuous defense of aborting a growing human being. Legally/legislatively they always have to claim there is no pain up until the birth of a child. Sickening.

135 posted on 09/07/2008 7:58:55 AM PDT by torchthemummy (The Democrat Media Wears No Clothes)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hey barry... you are a frelling liar and YOU do not get a re do... you POS.

LLS

136 posted on 09/07/2008 7:58:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except for dims!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess he didn’t like the idea of having to put on a suicide bomber’s vest.


137 posted on 09/07/2008 8:01:35 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: jgilbert63
Obama never intended to join the military. Frank Davis had much influence before Obama left for college. No one would ever believe that Frank Davis would encourage his young protegee to join the military.

Obama is very insecure. He can't handle criticism. He's never been criticized like he is now. He's shell shocked. He was able to get away with calling the Clinton's racist, because they are too politically correct to defend themselves. Obama played the race card, McCain called him on it.

No one this insecure should ever be President of the US.

138 posted on 09/07/2008 8:02:27 AM PDT by Walkers
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To: winodog
Bottom line.... He could have been a great man but he choose the new world disorder instead.

When I heard W. had gone into the Texas National Guard instead of going to Vietnam I got an "hair on the back of you neck" feeling about him, that he didn't have the panache to be a real leader and voted for Buchanan(Tennessee was polling heavily for W) as a protest vote.

And I voted for him in 04 and don't regret it , considering the choices.

I still get that queasy feeling every time he's had to make the big decisions, never sure which way he might go.

The best thing to come outta of the eight years of the Bush terms is Roberts and Alito and keeping the Dims out.
139 posted on 09/07/2008 8:05:19 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: rbg81

Well, ya know, he wrote two memoirs- I wonder if he mentioned this potential career choice in either one of them. He also ran for the Senate in Illinois- again, I wonder if he mentioned this. In fact, I wonder if he ever mentioned this at any other point in his life. If this doesn’t make him a national laughingstock, nothing will.


140 posted on 09/07/2008 8:06:44 AM PDT by Krankor (Are you claiming you eat toucans or)
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