Posted on 09/06/2008 4:38:21 PM PDT by STE=Q
The day before McCain surprised the nation with his pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate, I had a discussion with a woman I have known for many years.
Although well into the gifted range (so called genius ) she has a penchant for choosing political losers!
She is a walking talking example that IQ and common sense do not necessarily follow the same ark.
I had once argued, that if I were President, I would put her on my staff as a reverse barometer; I would do the opposite of whatever course of action she would suggest I take -- in regards to my Presidential duties.
She is also a lefty!
I mean, FAR left.
She is so FAR left that, compared to her, Hillary Clinton is conservative!
Of course, she considers herself a progressive.
Whod have guessed?
So it should be no surprise to you, my readers, that she thinks Obama is the greatest thing since hot-popped corn!
As an old-time liberal acquaintance of mine used to say of her -- and he considered himself pretty liberal in his day -- she is WAY-OUT in LEFT field (he was also a big baseball fan!)
SO HERES THE STORY:
I had sent her some links regarding the charge by one or more forensic experts that Obamas certificate of live birth -- displayed on his fight the smears website (fightthesmears.com) -- is a poorly done forgery!
Sometime later we had a discussion on the phone about the implications of Obama not coming forth with his actual birth certificate or an authentic original copy.
Why the fake certificate of live birth? I asked her.
I dont think its a big deal, she told me.
What do you mean no big deal, I said.
Heres what I think, she said, Obama was born out of wedlock!
You mean hes a bastard? I said
Yes, she said.
Playing devils advocate, I argued who would care?
After all it wouldnt be his fault if his mother was unwed when he was born, I said.
In this day and age what would be the big deal? I continued.
It would be a big deal, she retorted.
You mean he is ashamed? I said.
Yes, she said.
He would publish a poor forgery and hide his real birth certificate to cover it up? I continued.
Yes, she said.
A very poor forgery that could easily be discovered? I said.
He probably doesnt even know, she said.
How could he not know? I said.
He might not, she said.
Plausible deniability? I thought.
I let it go.
Then the discussion turned toward other things and I had to hear the inevitable hate Bush tirade words that spew forth from the mouths of lefties, like the turbulent waters that broke through the Levies in New Orleans propelled terribly, if irrationally, by hurricane Katrina.
After hanging up the phone the discussion I had with her, about the possibility of Obama being born out of wedlock, was pushed to the back of my mind where it was filed under:
Obama / birth / birth-certificate / cover-up / fake certificate of live birth / possible motives / illegitimate.
A couple of days passed and then came the announcement that John McCain had chosen Sarah Palin for his running mate, and I was energized by the prospect of an intelligent, well grounded, conservative woman -- a very beautiful woman -- as Vice President of the United states.
Then the story broke about her daughter Bristol being pregnant and not married.
And, of course, the mainstream media wolves -- ever hungry for red-meat -- were licking their chops!
Then Obama made the well known statement that children and family should be out of bounds and that, after all, his own mother was only eighteen when she had him.
When he said families are out of bounds I got the impression that he was attempting to preclude any snooping into his own family background.
I smelled subterfuge.
He was using something straightforward and plausible to obfuscate.
But what was in his family background that he would be anxious to hide?
Being the dullard I am I didnt immediately connect the dots.
Then it hit me:
That discussion I had with my progressive acquaintance about the possibility that Obama was born out of wedlock.
It was an a-ha moment!
Now I want everyone to know that I dont think that if Obama were born illegitimate that it should -- because of any perceived impropriety of his mother and father -- have any bearing on his qualifications (or lack thereof) to be President of the United States.
Apparently, one of Americas most famous leaders was born out of wedlock.
By his own account, Hamilton was born in Charlestown, the capital of Nevis in the British West Indies, out of wedlock, to Rachel Faucett Lavien (wikipedia)
So the question is:
Would an illegitimate birth generate enough shame within Obama, that in order to avoid such a stigma, he would cover it up by publishing a fake certificate of live birth, in lieu of a birth certificate or an original copy of one?
Does his authentic birth certificate actually say father unknown on it?
Or, perhaps, there is an authentic certificate of live birth with father unknown written on it because his mother could not produce a marriage license, at the time of Obamas birth.
However, as I suggested, such a revelation would not necessarily hurt him politically.
Let me tell you why.
I think if he were picked-on over this issue it would actually gain him sympathy with the public.
According to the leftwing, radical icon, Saul Alinsky:
Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. ( Saul Alinskys rules for radicals)
Picking on Obama for the sins of his parents would garner sympathy from the public.
His parents being unmarried at his birth would be beyond his control.
Such an attack would be perceived as intrinsically unfair.
To judge him for this would be as bad as condemning him for the color of his skin.
Despite the propaganda that came out of Obamas former mentor, reverend Wright:
Its not the America most of us live in know.
OK everybody put on your tinfoil hats!
Go ahead, Ill wait.
Got them on?
Is it possible that Obama WANTS his illegitimacy to be discovered -- preferably by conservatives -- in order to garner public sympathy?
Look, no one opposes an Obama Presidency more than I, however, if he were beat-up solely on the basis of a perceived stigma of being born illegitimate even I would sympathize with him!
OK, you can take the tinfoil hats off now!
However, it is undeniable that the COVER-UP of such an event as his illegitimate birth would be within his control and, therefore, the public would be justified in debating the pros and cons of such a cover-up by Obamas campaign:
He DID publish a fraudulent certificate of live birth.
There are also questions about whether his Mothers being unmarried at the time of his birth would have on the well known natural born citizen requirement to become President, under The Constitution Of The United States.
So why the cover up?
The forged certificate of live birth?
Was Obama born to unwed parents?
Would shame of his illegitimate birth be enough of a motive for Obamas campaign to publish a very poor forgery of a certificate of live birth a forgery that they must have known had a good chance of being discovered as such?
Or is the Obama campaign hiding something that could be far more damaging?
A few years back I sent away for an original copy of my birth certificate.
I had lost mine.
The original copy paper says (not on the copy-image itself but on the copy paper to the left of the copy-image) must be validated on back and there is a date and signature etc.
On the back is an embossed stamp together with more dates and signatures etc.
It cost me about ten dollars (in those days) for an official original copy of my birth certificate, on file at my state capital.
I got it in about ten days.
I was young and had moved to another state.
Having lost my birth certificate, I needed an original copy in order to get a driver license, a bank account, and ultimately a job.
Employers -- especially companies that must report taxis and pay into workers compensation and other programs -- expect to see some sort of identification from a potential employee.
They like to know who they are hiring.
They also like to know that the employee is honest and trustworthy.
The American people may be hiring Barack Obama as the next President of The United States.
As a potential employee we (the People of the United States) would like Obama to submit legitimate identification, namely:
A birth certificate or an official original copy of his birth certificate.
I dont think thats asking too much from a potential employee.
By the way, Mr. Obama
A forgery is unacceptable!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
Being born out of wedlock adds points if you are a Dem.
But it aint about that.
He’s not a natural born citizen.
As they say in Mizzou: Show me.
You need to get a life.
What happened to the Obama relatives in Kenya who claimed they were at his birth? I thought they were the reason this birth certificate was thought a forgery, and the one found in Kenya for him the real one....does anyone know the real facts?
So his is a bastard. That puts him in the company of at least half of young blacks who don’t know if daddy is actually uncle and kids in the neighborhood of diffent mothers are frequently siblings.
In the black community of urban Chicago, he fits right in
“Hes not a natural born citizen.”
Perhaps!
This is what this article is about.
There are two things to know.
(1)Obama submitted a fake certificate of live birth.
(2)There IS a cover-up.
Therefore, only a second class citizen would not demand that Obama submit a legitimate birth certificate or an original copy.
Case closed!
We can’t be 100% what the reasons for the cover-up are.
Thats why we need to demand Obama submit a proper certificate.
That’s WHY I wrote this article!
Thanks for your post.
STE=Q
Ditto...
Obama has worse scandals for the media to look away from..
“Hes not a natural born citizen.”
He’s born to an American woman. He has citizenship. My aunt married a Czech scientist & left for Prague in ‘66. Gave birth to a son & a daughter in Prague. Both have dual citizenship.
Obama was born in Hawaii. He mentions rather matter-of-factly driving past the hospital where he was born when he returned to Hawaii from Indonesia in his book Lessons from My Father. As this book was written 13 years ago, it is hard for me to believe that he was making this up then anticipating a run for President.
ML/NJ
Yes, but Indonesia doesnt allow for duel citizenship, and there are four years of documents listing Barry as INDONEISAN MUSLIM.
Bite me. Obama sucks even if his COLB says he is a citizen.
Ciao, baby.
LLS
Looks like they forgot about checking thier play book before they went after Sarah.
I always thought a person had to be born on American soil to be eligible to be President.
I predict that, as "buyer's remorse" sets in among dimocrats, it will THEY who bring it up, in an attempt to get Hillary at the top of the ticket at the last minute.
As for Republicans, I imagine the RNC is fairly satisfied with the opponent they have.
“does anyone know the real facts?”
We know two facts:
(1)Obama submitted a fake certificate of live birth.
(2)There IS a cover-up.
Therefore, only a second class citizen would not demand that Obama submit a legitimate birth certificate or an original copy.
I have a flash for those that want to roll-over on this.
These people — that includes Obama — are supposed to be servants of the people not the other way around!
They work for us!
So Obama has a lot of nerve posting a fake certificate of live birth — one that is still on his web page, I may add.
STE=Q
Even if this was true, CBS and Rather's team would still be 100% at fault for lack of due diligence. However, liberals hate to face facts and prefer to think they were 'tricked' somehow.
So it is possible that some liberal had the brilliant idea of planting this issue so Republicans could dig it up and get Obama a sympathy vote. However, they never counted how in the tank for Obama the MSM really is that they can't get anyone to bite.
I find Obama’s involvement with these tax funded Black Muslim Madrasahs to be much more worthy of our concern than his questionable birth certificate.
“Michelle’s Boot Camps For Radicals”
Investor’s Business Daily
Date: 9/5/2008
Election ‘08: Democrats’ reintroduction of militant Michelle Obama in Denver
was supposed to show her softer side. But it only highlighted a radical part
of her resume: Public Allies.
Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992,
resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter
of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he
features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service
corps. He calls his Orwellian program, “Universal Voluntary Public Service.”
Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into
government-funded reeducation camps where they’ll be brainwashed into
thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of “social change.”
The pitch Public Allies makes on its Web site doesn’t seem all that radical.
It promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year “community
leadership” positions with nonprofit or government agencies. They’ll also be
required to attend weekly training workshops and three retreats.
In exchange, they’ll get a monthly stipend of up to $1,800, plus paid health
and child care. They also get a post-service education award of $4,725 that
can be used to pay off past student loans or fund future education.
But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring
about “social change” through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation -
the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul “The Red”
Alinsky.
“Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . engage in
protest activities,” Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax
filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like
Obama to agitate for “justice” and “equality” in his hometown of Chicago and
other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York,
Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. “I get to practice being an activist,”
and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent.
Public Allies promotes “diversity and inclusion,” a program paper says. More
than 70% of its recruits are “people of color.” When they’re not protesting,
they’re staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of
jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and
other welfare.
Public Allies brags that more than 80% of graduates have continued working
in nonprofit or government jobs. It’s training the “next generation of
nonprofit leaders” - future “social entrepreneurs.”
The Obamas discourage work in the private sector. “Don’t go into corporate
America,” Michelle has exhorted youth. “Work for the community. Be social
workers.” Shun the “money culture,” Barack added. “Individual salvation
depends on collective salvation.”
“If you commit to serving your community,” he pledged in his Denver
acceptance speech, “we will make sure you can afford a college education.”
So, go through government to go to college, and then go back into
government.
Many of today’s youth find the pitch attractive. “I may spend the rest of my
life trying to create social movement,” said Brian Coovert of the Cincinnati
chapter. “There is always going to be work to do. Until we have a perfect
country, I’ll have a job.”
Not all the recruits appreciate the PC indoctrination. “It was too
touchy-feely,” said Nelly Nieblas, 29, of the 2005 Los Angeles class. “It’s
a lot of talk about race, a lot of talk about sexism, a lot of talk about
homophobia, talk about -isms and phobias.”
One of those -isms is “heterosexism,” which a Public Allies training seminar
in Chicago describes as a negative byproduct of “capitalism, white
supremacy, patriarchy and male-dominated privilege.”
The government now funds about half of Public Allies’ expenses through
Clinton’s AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a
national program that some see costing $500 billion. “We’ve got to have a
civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong,
just as well-funded” as the military, he said.
The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate
the military - and stick American taxpayers with the bill.
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