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Stay home or vote third party. Don't be surprised with what you get.

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1 posted on 09/06/2008 12:02:53 AM PDT by neverdem
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You could almost think McCain knows what he's doing.

After having watched how McCain and his team have handled this campaign from the start, and almost missing it, until somewhere between Saddleback, and the Dem Convention, I'd say that Mr. Hoven *almost* nailed it. I *do* think that McCain knows what he's doing, and it's been absolutely brilliant!

Lastly, I just *know* that he has even more tricks up his sleeve to finish this arrogant poseur off, between now, and November. He isn't finished yet...

the infowarrior

39 posted on 09/06/2008 1:33:36 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: neverdem

Well, if we get the “new, improved” McCain in there, we also need to give him a more conservative Congress. A McCain administration with a 58 seat Dem Senate (and the 8 or so RINOS) won’t be able to get anyone to the right of Souter onto SCOTUS.....and God only knows who Obama, with that same majority, would foist upon us.

One thing at a time, one thing at a time.....


46 posted on 09/06/2008 1:59:49 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

Interesting editorial. I’m not enthusiastic about McCain, but I’m committed to voting for him. And Sarah Palin, while not my first choice for VP, has turned out to be one of the reasons why.


49 posted on 09/06/2008 2:07:08 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: neverdem

I look at it like this: I’m voting for Palin because McCain is 72. He has to go at some point, and maybe he won’t be able to do too much damage in the interim.

Sorry to be that way, but I can’t afford to be polite about it. Country first.


56 posted on 09/06/2008 2:57:10 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Jimi Hendrix has more experience than Obama.)
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To: neverdem
His campaign staff was not only able to keep it a secret, it let the media drink its own bathwater in its silly who's-he-gonna-pick game. And he timed it beautifully to deny Obama a big post-convention bounce. You could almost think McCain knows what he's doing.

This impressed me as well. I don't want to call myself a McCain hater cause I never hated him but there was no enthusiasm. When people would ask who I supported I would tell them I planned to vote for Menelaus "Pass the biscuits/Pappy" O'Daniel" of O Brother Where Art Thou fame!

But after he chose Gov. Palin and I had a chance to read about her and then hear her speech I was won over and now believe the fighter jock knows what he is doing.

67 posted on 09/06/2008 4:15:48 AM PDT by Diva
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"But McCain did not pick Joe Lieberman or anyone like that. He picked Sarah Palin."

"And that changed everything."

Amen! I won't be holding my nose either. I will actually pull that lever with pride! Go McCain/Palin 08!!!

68 posted on 09/06/2008 4:16:57 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (NObama is the face of evil.)
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To: neverdem

I am getting the impression that America is awakening from a long long sleep, Sarah is the morning coffee, breakfast and inspiration of the day to get our buts in gear and make America a better place to work for.

The American dream is coming into reality.


71 posted on 09/06/2008 4:29:27 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (14 years living in Wasilla, Alaska, now its in all the news!)
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To: neverdem; Grunthor; mysterio; djsherin; VRWC For Truth; calcowgirl; AmericanInTokyo; ...
On the floor under my desk is a little pile of shavings. I whittled away the sharp point on the stick used to poke Anti McCain types.

Out in the back yard there is a little pile of fresh dirt....underneath is a hatchet, forever buried.

74 posted on 09/06/2008 4:38:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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Here's a comment I found posted at Anderson Cooper's website. I included the intro for background and snipped parts. Follow the link to read the entire post:

Gov Palin should not compare herself to Sen. Clinton because of this inside scoop…This is an email I received from a good friend in New York City. She is a Bryn Mawr graduate, and is a physician currently engaged in cancer research at Columbia University. This is an email she received from a Bryn Mawr classmate of hers who lives in Alaska.

Begin forwarded message: Dear classmates - As an Alaskan, I am writing to give all of you some information on Sarah Palin, Senator McCain’s choice for VP. As an Alaska voter, I know more than most of you about her and, frankly, I am horrified that he picked her. The most accurate description of her is red neck. Her husband works in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay and races snow mobiles. She is a life time member of the NRA and has worked tirelessly to allow indiscriminate hunting of wildlife in Alaska, particularly wolves and bears.

Not all of you may think aerial predator hunting is so bad, but how anyone (other than Alaska wolf-haters, of which there are many, most without teeth), could think this use of funds is appropriate is beyond me.

She has been a strong supporter of increased use of fossil fuels, yet the McCain campaign has the nerve to say she has “green” policies. The only thing green about Sarah Palin is her lack of experience.

Prior to her one year as governor of Alaska, she was mayor of Wasilla, a small red neck town outside Anchorage. The average maximum education level of parents of junior high school kids in Wasilla is 10th grade. Unfortunately, I have to go to Wasilla every week to get groceries and other supplies, so I have continual contact with the people who put Palin in office in the first place. I know what I’m talking about.

These people don’t have a concept of the world around them or of the serious issues facing the US. Furthermore, they don’t care. So long as they can go out and hunt their moose every fall, kill wolves and bears and drive their snow mobiles and ATVs through every corner of the wilderness, they’re happy. I wish I were exaggerating.

When you line Palin up with Biden, the comparison would be laughable if it weren’t so serious.

Should something happen to him such that the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate as Sarah Palin. The choice of Palin is a cheap shot by McCain to try to get Hillary supporters to vote for him. When McCain introduced her today, Palin had the nerve to compare herself with Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro. Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton.

But please try to see how the poor choice of Palin tells us a great deal about McCain’s judgment. While the political posturing inherent in the choice of Palin is obvious, the more serious issue is the fact that the VP is, literally, a heartbeat away from the presidency. Sarah Palin is totally and unequivocally unqualified to be vice president, let alone president.

Buwahahaaha! You know, these "progressives" remind me of Victorian gentlemen in their clubs talking about the rabble and 'those type of people'. They're closed-minded, bigoted and unbelievably self-righteous. They also are incapable of self-reflection.

77 posted on 09/06/2008 4:47:45 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (We're all Georgians now, Lili-Putin!)
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I don’t know if the Palin pick was dumb luck, desperation, or divine providence, but I have gone from being less than lukewarm to being an enthusiastic, active supporter of the ticket. Since I am in Massachusetts, how I voted wouldn’t have mattered and so I had planned to vote for a third party as a protest although I guess I sorta hoped that McCain would beat Obama as Obama will be a disaster for our country but was not willing to lift a finger to prevent it - hoping that in four years we could start on the road to recovery although recognizing that the damage (SC justices, devastating homeland attacks, or lasting diplomatic distrust) will be so great that it may have taken decades to recover, but the blame would fall on the libs/Dems. But if McCain pulls this off (and it’s now come up to at least being a long shot), I think he may feel he owes the base enough to fulfill his SC justice picks promise as otherwise he was going down to defeat. So for that alone I can support him. Besides we will get Sarah in 4 or 8 years or even sooner.


78 posted on 09/06/2008 4:57:30 AM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: neverdem

For all those who really didn’t want to vote for McCain, vote for his ticket. It positions a real Conservative for the followup in 2012. Sarah will be president in 2012,
Unless, of course, you want Hillary to re-occupy the White House.


80 posted on 09/06/2008 5:07:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: neverdem

In short, some of us think preserving a party that truly represents conservative values is more important for the long term than just having someone in the White House with an ACU rating somewhere north of 8.
***I was in that mindset as well. Supernova Sarah changed it for me and for many other social conservatives. Now we have representation.


83 posted on 09/06/2008 5:29:38 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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I’m not a McCain fan either, in general, but a vote NOT cast for him is a vote for Marxism and a vote against the re-birth of Reagan conservatism in Sarah Palin.


84 posted on 09/06/2008 5:30:25 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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I’m with the writer. I was not going to vote for McCain. A McCain win would have put the cause of conservatism back a lot of years because, if he won, he, and his advisors, would have figured that they did it without conservative support, and they would have ignored us. Government would have continued growing, and our liberty eroding.

On the other hand, an Obama victory, while bad for the nation in the short run, would have energized conservatism, and the country would benefit in the long run.

Sarah Palin changes that dynamic. If President McCain starts reaching too far across the aisle, with no reach back from the other side, VP Palin may be seen on his other arm pulling him back. I’m now prepared to give McCain/Palin the benefit of the doubt. I may even send some $$$, or even do some work for their local committee, as I did for Bush/Cheney and Dole/Kemp.


85 posted on 09/06/2008 5:31:31 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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McCain Haters For McCain


Describes both voters in my household perfectly.


96 posted on 09/06/2008 7:41:32 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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Out of the mouths of babes....

From the mouths of babes -- Piper Palin gives advice to John McCain

99 posted on 09/06/2008 8:21:42 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: neverdem

When McCain looked to be our nominee and Hillary was still in the running, I thought of not voting. (I live in WA, so most elections for me are “why bother?”s.) When Obama became the anointed one, and I found out more about him, I knew I would vote for McCain but without excitement. With the pick of Gov. Palin, I not only am excited to vote for the ticket, but I am thinking of bumper stickers(but afraid of car being vandalized considering where I live), signs in my yard, and I am actively promoting the ticket to everyone I know who isn’t a die-hard leftist! Every conservative I know feels the same way.


101 posted on 09/06/2008 8:55:11 AM PDT by conservative cat ("In politics if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman. " -MT)
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Here's a soldier addressing Mr. Obama directly. It's important.
102 posted on 09/06/2008 9:32:33 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he said: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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100+ posts and nobody's mentioned the most important thing about the pick, when compared with Obama's: the Obama/Biden ticket is a charismatic guy, plus an unexciting pick who won't threaten to outshine him. The McCain/Palin ticket is an unexciting guy with a wonderful pick whom he knows is going to outshine him.

To my mind, that shows a side of McCain's personality I had never before observed. And it suggests that regardless of ideology, he understands the key philosophy that separates liberals from conservatives: liberals believe that if they eliminate all other sources of light, their own illumination--such as it is--will appear greater. Conservatives believe that if they bring in other sources of light, their level of illumination will be made greater.

From that philosophy, conservative ideology will follow.

104 posted on 09/06/2008 9:55:45 AM PDT by supercat
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I think it earlier in the year and McCain said something like my, friends calm down relax. Okay from now until election day I am on the guys side because of the alternative. After election day we need to make sure that President elect McCain doesn’t start amnesty negotations with Ted Kennedy.


113 posted on 09/06/2008 1:30:54 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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