Posted on 08/28/2008 9:11:20 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Ban on Gay Marriage Trails -- Voters Split on Teen Abortion Constraints, Redistricting
SAN FRANCISCO, California, August 27, 2008 — A majority of California’s likely voters oppose Proposition 8, the November ballot measure that would eliminate gay marriage, according to a statewide survey released today by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) with funding from The James Irvine Foundation. Likely voters are divided on two other closely watched measures – one that would require a parent to be notified before a teenager has an abortion and one that would take the power to draw legislative district lines away from the legislature.
As the fall campaign season begins, Californians are united in their pessimism about the direction of the state and nation and in their worries about the economy. But they are split sharply on key issues ranging from the state budget to health care and the war in Iraq. Their views on the three state ballot issues – Propositions 4, 8, and 11 – reveal the fault lines among voters.
Proposition 8, which would amend the state constitution to eliminate same-sex marriage, is favored by 40 percent and opposed by 54 percent of the state’s likely voters. Democratic (66%) and independent likely voters (59%) are against it, and Republican likely voters are in favor (60%). The last time voters decided this issue – in 2000 – they approved a ban on same-sex marriages by a wide margin (61% yes, 39% no). After the state Supreme Court ruled that ban unconstitutional, supporters of Proposition 8 qualified the initiative for the 2008 ballot.
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And so they will again. Public Policy Institute be damned.
Let’s see if a “Bruce Bradley” factor doesn’t show up on Nov. 4.
Headline writer alert!
Or didn’t you know gay marriage involves hiking?
I’m happy that the people of California will get to decide this issue. Has Calif. become more liberal on the issue in the last eight years? We’ll find out.
So we’ll get to see how it plays out. But 27 states have voted to define marriage in their constitutions, with Arizona, Florida, and Calif. to decide that question on Nov. 4th. You could make a strong case that support for the “gay agenda” is weak across the country, considering that 23 of those 27 states with constitutional amendments on marriage have passed those since the Nov. 2003 court decision in Mass. on the subject.
The only difference this time around is that it amends the Constitution. I really don’t see Prop 8 failing but there will be a multi-million dollar campaign to make sure it does.
“Ban on Gay Marriage Trails — Voters Split on Teen Abortion Constraints, Redistricting “
What are Gay Marriage Trails” ? Are they for biking or running?
(Headline writers need to more precise, ping)
Flashback from March 2000...
Kids hold Prop. 22 debate (Liberal indoctrination working)
Dangit, why’s that file not loading now?
If Silicon Valley kids were in charge, Proposition 22 would go down in flames.
That was the conclusion Wednesday from a mock political rally held for kids, ranging from middle school to high school, at the cavernous San Jose State University Event Center intended to inspire interest in the upcoming elections.
After listening to student debaters and watching television commercials, kids gave a raucous thumbs-down to the idea of putting metal detectors in schools and to the attempt to define marriage as exclusively heterosexual.
Dubbed ``Kids Voting,'' the rally might as well have been called kids screaming, which they did energetically whenever a debater scored a rhetorical point, a vote was taken or the cursed subject of school uniforms came up.
The 500 young voters delineated a marked generation gap in their feelings about Proposition 22, the controversial ballot initiative on Tuesday's ballot that is intended to prevent gay marriages performed in another state from being recognized in California. Though it is mostly opposed in the Bay Area, the measure enjoys support from a majority of voters statewide.
The kids laughed off a TV ad favoring the measure that featured an elderly woman. They could barely contain themselves when a student debater spoke in favor of the initiative.
(SNIP)
Our local school board takes a survey every year about the starting and ending dates for the school calendar. The object of the game is to garner public support for the earliest possible starting date, which is what the teachers’ union favors. In the past, the people have always voted for the latest date they were offered, so the board began offering only “early” dates, and then claimed to have the public behind the choice it had actually made for them.
Still, they went through the process again a year later, no doubt hoping people would finally give in and let them do whatever they wanted with the calendar. This year they hit the jackpot. The people actually selected a date earlier than the last possible option they were given.
The result: That early date will now be the permanent date for school opening. No more votes.
Something very similar is happening in California, which will no doubt have legal gay marriage on its books until it falls into the sea.
Polls be d@mned. Let the voters decide.
Volunteers going door to door in Orange County report support for Proposition 8 is running nearly 3 to 1 in favor, about the same level of support the pro-traditional marriage Prop 22 received in this conservative part of California back in 2000. And many people are hesistant to tell you they support Prop 8 until they find out you are a fellow supporter.
Has Calif. become more liberal on the issue in the last eight years?
Yes - Two reasons. 1) the continuing flight of values voters and small business types from the Republik of KA. 2) On the gay marriage issue you have 8 more years of the MSM and Pop Culture feeding people the acceptability and celebration of homosexuality. The majority against gay marriage was big 8 years ago. Hopefully it’s still a majority.
They tried intimidation tactics here in Florida but we got enough signatures and then two weeks before the deadline we were told that we needed thousands and thousands of more signatures and in record time we got nearly double than we needed
Now the HOmo’s are trying to tell natural couples that if the state constitution is changed for just natural couples to get married it will affect them
er NOT but the homo’s are trying again. One thing I bet they will do us the north east liberals will buy a peice of land and will register to vote here.
Of course this is nothing new as they were found out at the last election voting down here and then voting up there while living up there.
The officials have been notified about absentee ballots this time around and double checks are/will be getting done
A lot of good people have been leaving.
They'll soon find out why they should have stayed to fight.
I don't know why, but if you just keep hitting "refresh" (up to 10 times), those old pages ultimately load in full.
Most Republicans (62%) favor the initiative, [to require that a parent be notified of an impending abortion involving their minor child].
This poll is bogus - the above unrealistic numbers prove that.
Must have been a San Fransicko poll.
Man! I can't even imagine the oppressive PC atmosphere Californians must be forced to endure. To think that you have to be quiet and secretive about supporting true marriage seems like something out of a George Orwell novel.
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