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Who Started Cold War II
Takimag.com ^ | August 18, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 08/19/2008 8:38:44 AM PDT by Publius804

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Who Started Cold War II

Posted by Patrick J. Buchanan on August 18, 2008

The American people should be eternally grateful to Old Europe for having spiked the Bush-McCain plan to bring Georgia into NATO.

Had Georgia been in NATO when Mikheil Saakashvili invaded South Ossetia, we would be eyeball to eyeball with Russia, facing war in the Caucasus, where Moscow’s superiority is as great as U.S. superiority in the Caribbean during the Cuban missile crisis.

If the Russia-Georgia war proves nothing else, it is the insanity of giving erratic hotheads in volatile nations the power to drag the United States into war.

From Harry Truman to Ronald Reagan, as Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, U.S. presidents have sought to avoid shooting wars with Russia, even when the Bear was at its most beastly.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: blameamericafirst; buchanan; clueless; coldwar2; comradepat; foreignpolicy; geopolitics; georgia; govladgo; nato; patbuchanan; pinkopatrick; putin; russia; saakashvili; southossetia; unitedstates; usefulidiots
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1 posted on 08/19/2008 8:38:45 AM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

Patrick J. Who?


2 posted on 08/19/2008 8:41:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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No surprise here. Noted Hitler apologist Paddy B swallows the Russian Autocrat Putin's propaganda hook line and sinker.

If Georgia had been in NATO, we would not have this stand off in South Oessia because Russia would of know they could never get away with it. Weakness invited aggression. History proves it to anyone but Paddy B with his welded shut mind.

3 posted on 08/19/2008 8:41:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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Well, what a surprise. Just like clock work, Pat's cranked out another pro-Putin piece.

Obviously, Pat, the Putinista, Buchanan, has become Putin’s number one American apologist for his foreign policy of bullying Russian neighbors.

Notice in the column that he has no problem comparing Russia’s resurgent and gratuitous militarism and his invasions to the history of the United States. Putin is just Andy Jackson in Pat's hero worship (reminds me of Michael Moore comparing the Iraqi terrorists to the American Minute Men during the Revolutionary War). For Pat, there is essentially no difference or distinction between Putin, the KGB thug, who murders Russian journalists, suppresses political opposition, and the USA. One might think that Pat would concern himself with the fate of journalists, but Pat's concern is for Putin.

After being rejected so roundly by the American voters in each of his risible runs for president, Pitchfork Pat changed. Today, in many ways, Pat’s the Noam Chomsky for his tiny number of followers. He writes potboilder full of historic sophistries, draws moral equivalences between his own country that’s made him rich, and belittles others (Iraqis, Georgians, Poles, Ukrainians, Israelis) for aspiring to be free and independent while excusing tyrants. There is a lengthy body of evidence in Pat's books and columns by now. From them, it's clear that his hate for the neo-Cons has pushed him into the arms of the neo-Coms. And there is no doubt that if Pat could re-write history Hitler would have controlled all of Europe, probably to this day. Pat’s recent book blames the Poles for World War II; they were just too damned stubborn. And he’s not too happy with Churchill for what he did to Hitler. But if Poles and Churchill upset him, it's not as if Pat’s not found a new strong man to revere. Pat doesn’t complain about Putin’s arm sales to Venezuela, Iran, or Syria. He doesn’t mind, or at least he doesn’t ever say anything about, Russia’s sale of Uranium to Iran or their providing of nuclear technicians who in their own ways are helping Iran to achieve its goals of becoming a nuclear-armed state. Nor, as he defends Putin’s putative defense of his countries spheres of influences does he note the Russians threats to station its forces in Cuba again. After all, in Pat’s mind, we made Putin do it. Putin’s got Pat to defend him. Pat’s a Blame America Firster. They deserve each other.

4 posted on 08/19/2008 8:43:10 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

Former pitchfork Pat now the Putinista ping.


5 posted on 08/19/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: Publius804

Pat, Pat, Pat - have you been exchanging dirty text messages with Putin again?


6 posted on 08/19/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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To: MNJohnnie

Russia is dictating with its open support of our enemies(Iran) and its attempt at a proxy war and will continue on with Georgia if we do not back up the tough talk. The US should not put up with this and if it came to war like that it is on the Soviets. It would eventually come to that with the way it’s heading now. They are continuing to test us.


7 posted on 08/19/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by bushfamfan (America's sunrise has turned into a sunset.)
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To: Publius804
Patrick Buchanan likens Vladimir Putin to Andrew Jackson.

Andrew Jackson.

8 posted on 08/19/2008 8:48:27 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Pat’s just upset that there is more outrage from Pres. Bush and McCain toward Putin than toward Mexico for breaking our own International Borders.

Deal with it Pat, we will protect Europe against Russia more than we will defend our country from invasion by foreign Nationals.

It’s just the way it is.


9 posted on 08/19/2008 8:48:43 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Publius804

I guess Pat like totalitarians of all kinds, Nazis or Stalinists.

But, in hindsight, I guess Stalin killed enough Jews to be “OK” in Pat’s book.


10 posted on 08/19/2008 8:50:45 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan ("Jesse Jackson was an important figure; paving the way for Osama bin Laden to appear" -- Dan Rather)
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To: Publius804

How does Saakashvili invade it’s own territory? If there was an uprising in Florida, would the media say the US invaded Florida?


11 posted on 08/19/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (Forever a Newbie)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Pat hates the neo-Cons and loves the neo-Coms.


12 posted on 08/19/2008 8:54:12 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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To: Publius804

Looks like Putin did a pre-emptive strike against NATO advancing to Russia’s doorstep. Bush knows Putin’s soul so Bush understands that Putin’s mind works just like his.


13 posted on 08/19/2008 8:55:06 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: autumnraine
If there was an uprising in Florida, would the media say the US invaded Florida?

The US media? Hell yes.

14 posted on 08/19/2008 8:55:21 AM PDT by agere_contra ("We are all Georgians" - John McCain)
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To: agere_contra

Ok, yeah, I guess you are right.


15 posted on 08/19/2008 8:56:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (Forever a Newbie)
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Well, Pat did have an uncle who died at Auschwitz. He fell asleep on guard duty and fell out of the tower to his death. Pat’s never forgiven the Jews for this.


16 posted on 08/19/2008 8:56:29 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama: vain, mercurial, inexperienced, aloof, condescending, doctrinaire, and Reverend Wright's son.)
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How does Saakashvili invade it’s own territory?

Same way those pesky Czechs invaded the Sudetenland -- and IIRC Pat's on record as saying the Czechs were at fault for what happened there and later....

17 posted on 08/19/2008 8:58:41 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: agere_contra

Who cares what Pat says or thinks?
(”Ride to the sound of the guns”, my butt!)


18 posted on 08/19/2008 8:59:38 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Publius804

Don’t worry... The crocodile will eat us last.


19 posted on 08/19/2008 9:00:52 AM PDT by gridlock (The obvious problem with Barack Obama is that you can't polish a turd.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Was that a lie or a joke from you?


20 posted on 08/19/2008 9:01:48 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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