Posted on 08/19/2008 8:03:48 AM PDT by T-Bird45
Correction to writer’s name: Manny Gamallo
“which is a myth in OK as there is no central database for gun info or a method by which one could be put together.”
The firearms “InstaCheck” IS a gun database. It is maintained by State and federal agencies.
The correct response to this 'request' to 'volunteer' is "Get a Warrant."
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Hmmm....
No, I don’t think so.
When I purchase a weapon the weapon information is not provided, just my name and personal information to see if I’m on a “list of wanted” or something someplace. The information about the weapon is NOT provided to anyone.
I would volunteer, what happened to those poor girls is terrible, that is, unless I had something to hide.
“Wow is that going to set some folks afire ...”
I thought the same thing . Unless something has changed since I kept records , they would have to go to each FFL dealer and sift through his records . That involves a hell of a lot of assumptions . I don’t blame the cops for using every tool available to solve a crime , but those who said the record keeping was not a step to enable confiscation need to pay attention .
I’m thinking... that it might have something to do with the concealed carry permit thing?
Not sure how OK works these days. Here they don’t ask you what kind of weapon you carry, so no one knows unless I tell them what I carry.
Next time there is a hit and run accident all car owners should be prepared to line up as suspects.
No. It is not.
It is a database of who is eligible or ineligible to own firearms.
It is not a data base of what firearms are owned by whom.
They NICS system is prohibited from retaining information on what firearms were purchased by what individuals.
To trace firearms, the ATF traces a firearm by serial number from the manufacturer to the dealer who sold it. The dealers are required to keep records of to whom they sold firearms, and respond to traces on individual firearms.
State or local agencies may have their own gun registration system, but NICS is not a gun registration system.
NICS is an instant criminal background check administered by the FBI.
When you purchase a firearm, the dealer takes your identification information and calls the FBI with it. The FBI informs the dealer whether or not you are prohibited from owning a firearm.
By law, they are not supposed to keep any record of the firearm you purchase.
Not exactly. Info about the weapon IS provide to someone. Both you and the dealer complete the ATF Form 4473. The dealer adds the weapon S/N, make & mdl among other things. Once the transaction completes the dealer files the form and the ATF is at liberty to inspect it. Its not at all uncommon for the ATF to ‘browse’ 4473s looking for particular weapons (usually of the non-PC variety). They photocopy those and take them back to the office where it’s speculated they enter a (illegal) database.
That’s the theory of it. It’s not uncommon for govt agencies to be non-compliant w/ the law.
Should citizens be expected to volunteer DNA samples for unsolved sex crimes ? Lets hear from the “if you got nothing to hide” contingent .
Like the welcome mat in my garage says “Come back with a warrant”...
I have no control over that. It's above my paygrade.
I'm not on fire, and agree 100% that what happened to those girls is nothing less than pure evil. That is why I would much prefer to see the limited law enforcement human and monetary resources actually being used to seek justice instead of running a public relations campaign that will convince the public they're doing something by harassing law abiding gun owners.
If this effort actually leads to the identification of the killer, you sir, may bring me the biggest helping of crow under glass and freely gloat whilst I gladly choke on it.
“...Lets hear from the “if you got nothing to hide” contingent.”
My response to that line of “reasoning” is this: “Since I don’t have anything to hide, you have nothing to look for, so get off my porch and be on you’re way.”
Good answer!
This is exactly what makes this kind of thing just bone-headed stupid.
You know you didn't murder those girls, so you're just wasting valuable resources that could be better directed looking for the perp.
And if you did have something to hide, you'd be crazy to volunteer for any such 'testing'.
Do the cops really think the weapon used is going to be volunteered for testing? If they do, they should really turn in their badges and get a job more in line with their intellectual horsepower.
Running carnival rides springs to mind immediately...
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