Posted on 08/19/2008 7:49:51 AM PDT by TitansAFC
NR has learned that the McCain campaign has been calling key state GOP officials around the country the last couple of days and sounding them out about the consequences of a pro-choice VP pick. The campaign is asking about the reaction of conservative grass-roots activists to such a pick and whether a pro-choicer can be sold to them. This is an indication that the McCain campaign is serious about the possibility of a pro-choice VP nominee and that McCain leaving the door open to Tom Ridge last week may not have been merely a friendly nod to a longtime supporter. In this scenario, McCain's emphatic pro-life statements Saturday night and his pledge that he'll run a "pro-life administration" would have been partly an attempt to reassure conservatives in the event of a pro-choice pick. Here is NR's take today on why going with a pro-choicer would be a mistake for McCain.
“Who will it be?”
Hopefully someone that doesn’t turn off large portions of the base.
So you are implying that Regan valued nothing?
He chose a running mate who was not pro life... are you suggesting he valued nothing?
Stop spewing rhetoric and get real.
Ridge is a bigger deal than you think. Ridge handily would still be the Governor here if he had not been tapped by Bush. Sadly we’ve been stuck with fast eddie since then.
“So you are implying that Regan valued nothing?”
Are you implying that McCain is Reagan?
“He chose a running mate who was not pro life...”
What kind of USSC nominees did that pro-life VP give us when he had the chance?
“Stop spewing rhetoric and get real.”
Stop trying to throw principled, pro-life values under the BS Express and get real yourself.
Nope I never implied McCain was Regan, but you are the one throwing around meaningless rhetoric, which of course is not backed up by any facts, but hey facts don’t matter because its not what you want to hear.
I would personally much prefer an ardent pro life VP, however I’m not going to storm off in huff throwing around crap cliche’s like you are if that doesn’t come to pass.
You imply that if a non pro-life VP was chosen that there are no principles, which by that proposition you imply that Regan stood for nothing since his VP was definately not pro life.
And as to your USSC nominees and the issue of abortion, you better go look at some of the ones Regan himself nominated. Some of those have been some of the biggest disappointments on the court in regard to this particular topic.
You can keep throwing around rhetoric and think I’m the enemy all you want if that makes you sleep better at night, but all you are proving with your nonsense is what a zealot you are, and like most zealots have no idea who your friends are, because you are too busy attacking anyone who dares voice any opinion other than a parrot of your own.
“Nope I never implied McCain was Regan”
Oh really?
“So you are implying that Regan valued nothing?
He chose a running mate who was not pro life”
Your words. BTW I am fairly sure that Donald Regan never served one day as POTUS, much less had a pro-baby-murder VP.
You can keep throwing around rhetoric and think I’m the enemy all you want if that makes you sleep better at night, but all you are proving with your nonsense is what a zealot you are, and like most zealots have no idea who your friends are, because you are too busy attacking anyone who dares voice any opinion other than a parrot of your own.
I am a conservative. I am a Christian. No ticket with a person on it that thinks that murdering the weakest among us is a good thing will ever get my vote. If you believe differently fine, that is your right but don’t take an unprincipled, weak-assed, cowardly, political stand on the issue of life and then attack someone that actually HAS principles, values and lines that they will not cross.
I don’t consider you the enemy, I consider you wrong.
Your words, not mine. I called you on it. Reagan chose a VP who was not Pro Life.. which by your rhetoric meant that Reagan valued nothing. You then responded with a bunch of meaningless blather.
You don't have to support anyone, I really could care less, but if you want to put forth meaningful arguments can the rhetoric.
Not every person who has been pro-life has been as arrogant as you are on the topic. You seemed to justify your rhetoric by voicing disappointment on GB I's appointments, which I pointed out that Reagan's appointments on this particular topic were huge disappointments and you promptly ignored the facts again.
You vote however you want, but if you think the unborn will be better protected under a President Fauxbama than under a McCain administration should he choose a VP who is not pro life, then you are frankly just stuck on stupid.
Fauxbama has fought to allow doctors not only to perform abortions at any time in any manner and for any reason, but has fought to make sure that medical providers can refuse care to any child born by a botched abortion and let them die alone in garbage cans. You vote however you want, but if your goal as you claim it to be is to work for the protection of the weakest among us, and you think a Fauxbama adminstration is going to be a better option than a McCain one, should he chose a VP not to your like, you are completely wrong.
All or nothing mindset leaves you with nothing far more often than all.
Abortion will be decided in the courts, not at the ballot box.One more strict constructionist on the court and Roe will be overturned...and the issue will go back to the states.
At least 40 states will allow abortion under some circumstances.
I’m going ot say this one last time and then I am done with this conversation;
I will not ever vote for a ticket, be it Republican be it Democrat that has in the first slot or the second a person that favors the murder of children. I understand that in your opinion that stance places me outside the mainstream of the GOP and I don’t give a rip. That is how I feel. I have not changed on that issue since my first vote, I will not change on it now.
I know, just call me a “maverick.”
I heard on the radio news that the RNC said that Tom Ridge would NOT be the nominee, so that’s good news.
Here’s the FR CALL TO ACTION thread for those who missed it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064309/posts
I just posted this on another thread:
“I just heard on Hannity’s that the RNC said that a pro-”choice” running mate will not be picked by Senator McCain.
Our voices have been heard!!!!
Now let’s give the McCain camp some names of STRONG pro-life, conservatives, and here’s McCain contact info.:
John McCain 703-418-2008 and e-mail jpblack@mccain08hq.com and http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/ “
You are probably right - which is another reason I am against a McCain presidency. He is vengeful, irratic and has a temper. We need a stable, thoughtful president who weighs any event with care, control and wisdom. Don’t think vengefulness, irratic behavior, and a quick temper are very wise.
He better learn a little forgiveness and understanding that he is not a dictator but a president running to lead the greatest country in the world. If he is not willing to hold true to values that the people are concerned with - he will not be worthy of the job.
Maybe that will feed his vengefulness but it just plays into the things many of us see in him that turns off our support.
What makes him think any republican would be happy with a VP from the socialistic party that could fall right into the presidency and turn the government over to full liberals who will progressively destroy this country.
Shows McCain does not have the slightest clue about the beliefs of the masses.
The only pro-choice VP I would even half-way support would be Rudy and only because he has such leadership abilities and does understand the values people hold. He would protect this country, he is a good leader - but I still cannot understand any that are willing to give women the right to kill their own children for convenience. It devalues the lives of children from day one and it is not worthy of this great nation. All of this beside the fact that the Ten Commandments say “Thou shall not kill”. And I feel very sure the Lord considers a fetus a new life.
I would not want to explain that abortion on Judgement Day.
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