ATF Changes Defintion of "Manufacturer"

johnjacobh.wordpress.com ^ | 08/16/08 | johnjacobh.wordpress.com

[Copernicus]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/081508manufacturing-of-firearms.pdf

8. A gunsmith regularly buys military-type firearms, Mausers, etc., and sporterizes" them for resale. The gunsmith is in the business of manufacturing firearms and should be licensed as a manufacturer.

9. A gunsmith buys semiautomatic pistols and modifies the slides to accept a new style of sights. The sights are not usually sold with these firearms and do not attach to the existing mounting openings. The gunsmith offers these firearms for sale. This would be considered the manufacturing of firearms, and the gunsmith should be licensed as a manufacturer.

10. A gunsmith buys government model pistols and installs "drop-in" precision trigger parts or other "drop-in parts" for the purpose of resale. This would be considered the manufacturing of firearms, as the gunsmith is purchasing the firearms, modifying the firearms, and selling them. The gunsmith should be licensed as a manufacturer.

11. A gunsmith buys surplus military rifles, bends the bolts to accept a scope, and then drills the receivers for a scope base. The gunsmith offers these firearms for sale. This would be considered the manufacturing of firearms, and the gunsmith should be licensed as a manufacturer.

12. A gunsmith buys surplus military rifles or pistols and removes the stocks, adds new stocks or pistol grips, cleans the firearms, then sends the firearms to a separate contractor for bluing. These firearms are then sold to the public. This would be considered manufacturing of firearms, and the gunsmith should be licensed as a manufacturer.

[Squantos]

If for anything a marital aid !.....I dunno how she died ossifer she just went off !

[Blood of Tyrants]

Yes, you do. And you also have to purchase a manufacturers FFL which costs $1500/year (at last check, it may be more now). This is all designed to run small time gunsmiths out of business.

[ConservativeMind]

What does it take to be set up as a “gun manufacturer”?

[Blood of Tyrants]

So according to the ATF, the same firearm will be “manufactured” twice.

[Selmore]

Now they can get their Waco warrants right.

[Chinstrap61a]

Then the BATF should be abolished.

[Blood of Tyrants]

MUCH more paperwork, a much higher fee and a different type of license and tons of bullshit from the assholes ant the atf.

[300winmag]

BTW have you ever seen this type of AOW Class III NFA doodad ? That baton / billy fires a 20ga shotgun round !

Cool! It must be some old-time pre-NFA gadget. I live in a NFA-unfriendly state (unless you're a big time RAT), so you don't see stuff like that.

I see you carry "assault pens", too. My current favorite is the Benchmade 1100-2.

I don't write with it much, but is has come in handy for poking holes in packing tape so I can tear it.

[elkfersupper]

Multipurpose weapon.

Good for what ails ya'.

[NonValueAdded]

Since when did ATF become part of the Legislative Branch?

[rustyboots]

I put a real collaspible stock on my AR15 and added a tactrical scope. If I later sell that rifle with both still on it, does that make me a “manufacturer?” Hell, under this I might be a “manufacturer” if I add a flashlight or laser site to one of my Kimbers.This sounds like a money grab to me. If stretched to any change made to a firearm, then everyone who purchased a firearm would have to be a “manufacturer” to make any mods to a firearm. What a crock!!

[theBuckwheat]

This defies logic, for what *exactly* is a "firearm"? Until now it was the part that had the serial number, the part that could not be sold by a dealer at retail unless the buyer filled out the paperwork and passed the background check.

For example. I buy a "stripped" receiver for an AR-15, one with no additional parts. This part has the serial number. This part is the "firearm". These rule changes seem to say that when I add legal trigger parts, I am now a "manufacturer". This seems to make assembling your own (otherwise fully legal) firearm illegal unless you follow these new rules. This is an outrageous power grab.

[DocH]

This is a follow-on to the bastards getting away with slamming the guy for having a "machine gun", when it was actually nothing more than a malfunctioning semi-automatic.

These jack-booted f**ks need to cease and desist.

It's not enough that they visciously attack, and bring about the incineration of, large numbers of innocent men, women, and children?

[pierrem15]

Shhhh. Don't give them any ideas...

What utter rot. These points sound more like an April Fools joke than a serious regulation. What utter crap.

[smokingfrog]

Main Entry: man·u·fac·ture Pronunciation: \ˌman-yə-ˈfak-chər, ˌma-nə-\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle French, from Medieval Latin manufactura, from Latin manu factus, literally, made by hand Date: 1567 1: something made from raw materials by hand or by machinery2 a: the process of making wares by hand or by machinery especially when carried on systematically with division of labor b: a productive industry using mechanical power and machinery3: the act or process of producing something

[east1234]

I’ve scoped several rifles and replaced stocks. This is BS!

[bamahead]

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.

[Squantos]

Noooo that ain’t my picture..... I carry a zebra 701 pen that I modified with a fisher space pen refill. Hate to leave a high dollar benchmade or Surefire / Timberline “Pen” stuck in a bad guys neck........

My carry crap these days is a Glock 31, A surefire E2D, a Leatherman Skeletool and the Zebra 701 pens. On boonie and urban trips I add a ankle holster with a S&W 317 Snubby and 50 spare rounds of CCI stinger in a old style MTM ammo box that fits in the ankle rig pouch one of my parachute riggers sewed up for me long ago ! Each round of the CCI stingers get the Paco Kelly accurizer HP tool treatment. And the company digital leash ....a blackberry curve.

[clee1]

Hey! That’s MY (tag)line!

Credit where credit is due!

[dcwusmc]

No. DISMEMBER the BATFags. A nice long bath in a vat of boiling oil would be OK, too. Or, for some of the lustier lads there, perhaps a week or three in the embrace of the Iron Maiden would be appropriate. Then there’s Drawing and Quartering. Or, for the Modernists amongst us, perhaps some of the treatments some of our guys had prescribed for them by the VC/NVA. Many of which involved huge rats and fire.

Nothing quick and clean for our lovely BATFags, thanks.