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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Guenevere

no your not.


981 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:55 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

After each question, Rick grumbles a begrudging “alright”.


982 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:56 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: SE Mom

Holy moly, he just keeps nailing it!


983 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:58 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: gas_dr

I’m with you . We might not always agree with the man,but who do we always agree with?


984 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:59 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (In my day,Flunking gym was not an option , even for Stupid Kids!)
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If McCain’s VP choice is a pro- life conservative....... I’ll send him $$$


985 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:02 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: flyfree

Obama said he would confront evil.

WEAK


986 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:04 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: modest proposal

In his own mind...


987 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:07 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: icwhatudo
Will support federal marriage amendment if fed courts try to force states to honor gay marriages of other states.

Well, that answers my full faith and credit clause concern...

988 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: All
in a nutshell, Obama sees the presidency as an intellectual exercise, McCain sees it as a real world experience.
nuff said.
989 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:15 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: Shortstop7

I’m leading a cheer here

LOL


990 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AmericanMade1776

Balls out names names of Judges he would not nominate! WOW!!!


991 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:33 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Shortstop7

Me too! Go McCain!


992 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:35 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: flyfree

That does it. I’m getting the bumper sticker!


993 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:40 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: newnhdad

ginsberg, stevens who were the others


994 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: modest proposal

Ginsburg, Bryer, Souter, Stevens would not have been nominated.

Surprise, surprise. :)

No more legislating from the bench.


995 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:54 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: modest proposal

Ginsburg, Bryer, Souter, Stevens would not have been nominated.

Surprise, surprise. :)

No more legislating from the bench.


996 posted on 08/16/2008 6:26:54 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: Shermy

I just wish I could believe the guy.


997 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:02 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

But McCain stated that if the Full Faith and Credit clause is invoked by a court that is when the marriage amendment should be brought up.


998 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:09 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: WesA

Not sure I can take many more “my friends...” I’m pretty loaded now..


999 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:10 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: mainepatsfan

GINSBERG!

GRAND SLAM OUTTA THE PARK!


1,000 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:12 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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