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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Jaguarmike

They panned over to Cindy and she looked so proud. I think I saw a tear.


961 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:07 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: AliVeritas

Don’t recall AV

Asked about Evil - defeat it!!!!
As I have always said, McCain knows who the enemy is


962 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:16 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: 21twelve

Will follow OBL to the gate of HELL. I’ll get that SOB! Great line.


963 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:20 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: mewzilla

Mc should have said, rip it’s (&(&(&(& head off. LOL


964 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:36 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: SE Mom

evil = Osama


965 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: All

Wow.

I hope McCain can keep this up in all the debates. He’s blowing Obama out of the water.


966 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:45 PM PDT by Jedidah
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"For most of us in the PRO-LIFE Movement..."

McCain let's us know what side he's on. Clear as a bell.

"Radical Islamic extremism....if that isn't EVIL, you tell me what is."

WHAM!!!

967 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:48 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Guenevere

Am I the only one with a long memory?

He is not perfect, I have not forgotten, we will not get 100% of our conservative issues with McCain.


968 posted on 08/16/2008 6:24:58 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: newnhdad

Troops to come home with HONOR, DIGNITY, and VICTORY!!


969 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:01 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: Tennessee Nana
states should make the decisions

There's one very big problem with that answer, and it's the full faith and credit clause...

970 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:04 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: FlashBack

the “my friends” are accumulating...


971 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:11 PM PDT by WesA
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To: AliVeritas; tiredoflaundry

PLEASE, Sen. McCain ... NO MORE ...... ‘my friends!!!’

Again ...... FRINK!


972 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:20 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: SE Mom

Ha! So what did Obama say to that question?


973 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:21 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Islander7

You go John

Go get Osama


974 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: nckerr

What kind of ‘total person’ will you have when the sovereignty of our land is up for grabs to the highest bidder????


975 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:22 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Tennessee Nana

Isn’t it crazy the guy who was just on is one letter away from being Osama.


976 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:26 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: AliVeritas

I cannot believe how fired up I am getting....go figure.


977 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:26 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: rabscuttle385

Barack Hussein probably would have come out of this pretty well; if he wasn’t followed by McCain. I’ve heard enough. McCain’s won this and won large.


978 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:28 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: SE Mom
SE Mom wrote: Good GRIEF! McCain is terrific! Who knew I could almost like him? The comparison between McCain and Obama is stark. McCain has substance...someone lives there.

Embrace this feeling of like for McCain .

979 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:28 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: mewzilla

“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”

—George Burns


980 posted on 08/16/2008 6:25:52 PM PDT by Shermy (Lolo Soetoro Was A "Nominal Muslim" Who Enjoyed Bacon - stupid and insulting in one, typical Obama)
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