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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Shortstop7
Anyone else think Warren’s enthusiasm has dimmed? He looked a little troubled as they went to commercial

yes, like John McCain did much better than he hoped...
921 posted on 08/16/2008 6:19:59 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: TornadoAlley3

I love this Cross story...

What comfort it must have givem McCain


922 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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No hesitation on the abortion q!!


923 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:14 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: FlashBack

Beautiful answer on abortion...no questions.


924 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:16 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: XR7

Obama was boring and McCain, well he’s the real deal.


925 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:20 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: TornadoAlley3

TIME OF CONCEPTION!!! NO HEMMING AND HAWING.


926 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:21 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: All

Great answer to abortion.. it’s not above his paygrade..


927 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:26 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: modest proposal

A baby is entitled to Human Rights at the MOMENT of CONCEPTION...

Okay, I’m in.


928 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:26 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: SE Mom

At the moment of conception.

Said with conviction.

That’s his commitment.


929 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:30 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: flyfree

At the moment of conception...his Presidency will be that of PRO-LIFE!!!
OK...this guy has me on the hook now!!! This with his DRILL NOW policy!!


930 posted on 08/16/2008 6:20:59 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: dandelion

Ok, I’m in now too.


931 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:01 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: TornadoAlley3

Human rights

At the moment of conception

pro-life for 25 years...

You go Mccain


932 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: tiredoflaundry

Conception.

One man, one woman.

Outta the park!

Wants to go to SCOTUS right away! LOL!


933 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:16 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All

“At the moment of conception”

God Bless John McCain!


934 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:17 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: SoCalPol
Hello,

Yep, I get the computer about 90% of the time, so when Mr. MOguy needs it, I gracefully allow him to use it....

:)

MOgirl

935 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:19 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: dandelion

Yep, I’m in too.


936 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:31 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Watch Warren hit him on stem cells.

Wait a minute, wasn’t Mc shopping a pro-abort.


937 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:46 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

McCain brought a tear to my eye (and his as well!) when he mentioned the story of the prison guard and the cross...


938 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:51 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: dandelion
You have no question about his loyalty to America?????

What about his amnesty bill?...already forgotten?

What about his visits to La Raza?....already forgotten?

Am I the only one with a long memory?

939 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:52 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: NOBAMA in 08

The Moron Mess-iah and he looks like he is fighting serious depressional problems.

@@@@@

He probably has woken up to the fact that he will be attending the Clinton Convention.


940 posted on 08/16/2008 6:21:56 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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