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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: dandelion

If this is a preview of the debates then Obama is in big trouble.


881 posted on 08/16/2008 6:16:45 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: kcvl

How could the KJV be the authorized version from God? Did God write the KJV, or did man translate the Word into the King’s English?


882 posted on 08/16/2008 6:16:55 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: dandelion

I came in for Obama’s last few minutes ... did he really say questions about abortion or any thing is above his pay grade? The pay grade he is going after is the most powerful office/pay grade on earth and doesn’t allow that kind of wiggling. Especially since as a lowly state senator he was very opinionated about abortion, up to live birth abortion.


883 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:09 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Bodhi1

He would have been nailed had he not given that answer. The MSM wud have had a field day.


884 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:13 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I hope someone taped this... the later version will be edited. Trust me, I had some real experiences re: dem debate sections.


885 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:16 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: dandelion

Can you say President John Mccain ?????????

Pick a great VP John and I’ll go beyond considering....


886 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: All

Was this asked of Obambi?


887 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:35 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: mewzilla
Now we get to the Globalist questions. Should be interesting.
888 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:38 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: WesA

Yes McCain will be our next President :)


889 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:44 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: mainepatsfan
If this is a preview of the debates then Obama is in big trouble.

Only if Barry's IFB is busted.

890 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:44 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AmericanMade1776

The Fox pundits loved Obama. Just like they loved Kerry and Gore in the debates. Problem is a majority of Americans always disagree with them. Ask AL and John Effin.


891 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think the Big-O is gonna have to put some ice on that!!


892 posted on 08/16/2008 6:17:53 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: library user
Hello,

Missed it, still without cable, and was not willing to upset myself when the O was on and get Fox or C-SPAN stream. Could you give me context?
Thanks!!

MOgirl

893 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:15 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: mainepatsfan

I might need to go get a yard sign tomorrow..


894 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:18 PM PDT by MNReaganite (Bobby Jindal for President)
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To: SoCalPol

What outside questions did Obama get?


895 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:19 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: mainepatsfan

Something happened to Obama in Hawaii.. I think he and Michelle are having problems.. he was more subdued that usual.


896 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:23 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Shortstop7

Looked different to me, but I’ll keep watching.


897 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:33 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: FlashBack

Saved and forgiven

The simple Gospel...


898 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: silentreignofheroes

As far as I am concerned McCain has answered honorably, honestly and directly. I now believe that he is a worthy candidate for the GOP. I will pray for this man that he may prevail.


899 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:46 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: newnhdad

yes-same questions to both.


900 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:51 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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