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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: All

Refuses to call evil, evil.. Evil in the streets? Have humility? We perpetrated evil in the name of good??


461 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:06 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: AliVeritas

Should I take it, no adult stem cell cures mentioned yet?

No embryonic cure yet mind you, hundreds of adult SC.


462 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:07 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: SLB
), SLB wrote: Rick Warren is letting you form your own opinion , he stated that at the beginning Rick Warren is asking the tough questions. Rick Warren is clueless. Obama is leading him by the nose.

No he is not, he is just letting Obama stutter.. and then he gives the same question to McCain.

463 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:22 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Clemenza

BO- “This is hard, I’ve been on the stump for a long time.”


464 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:28 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Its sad and a shame that his mother continued with her pregnancy! He tries to sound so righteous and yet he wants to murder babies that survive the abortion attempt and are born viable. This Slimeball makes Snakeoil salesmen qualify for being The POPE!


465 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:39 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: Daffynition

In the Army we were not rained to have humility when confronting evil. Maybe that’s the old days.


466 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: Fudd Fan

Did anyone post this?

http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/rick-warren-sells-out-to-libs-on-cnn/


467 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:45 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I would not have nominated Clarence Thomas


468 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:55 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: SLB

Rick Warren: “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me.”


469 posted on 08/16/2008 5:32:59 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: jwalsh07

SCALIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


470 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:13 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: TornadoAlley3; pissant
BO scatching his nose, what does BOR’s body language expert say that means?

Don't know what BOR's body language expert would say about that but pissant would say that means he wants some hot coked up gay sex in the back of a limo. ;)

471 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:15 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Clemenza
Throws CLARENCE THOMAS under the bus.

Good God.

472 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:17 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

It amazes me that some what to shoot the questioner Rick Warren, for asking a question.


473 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:24 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: All

Dislikes Scalia and Thomas..


474 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:27 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: TornadoAlley3

OMG- he would NOT have nominated Clarence Thomas.......

or Scalia.....


475 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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“Which existing Supreme Court Justice would you NOT have nominated?”

O Answers: Clarence Thomas


476 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:32 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: maica

[Obama says the question is above his pay grade]

What an arrogant piece of work this man is!


477 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:33 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Wouldn’t nominate Clarence Thomas!!!

But it’s all about the RACE Baby!


478 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:36 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: pandemoniumreigns

I’m going to fix a double when the next break comes. This disgusting crap is unpalatable without alcohol! I’m staying way off from my TV, so I don’t end up having to replace it tomorrow.


479 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Would not have nominated Clarence Thomas — I think Obama hates himself.

Please Jesus, don’t let this man get elected to lead this great nation. Pleeeeze Jesus!!!

(praying hard here)


480 posted on 08/16/2008 5:33:43 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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