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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: All

Opposed to late term?? I guess he forgot to tell NOW, or NARAL


401 posted on 08/16/2008 5:25:52 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: TornadoAlley3
That sure brought out some murmers!
402 posted on 08/16/2008 5:25:53 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: mombonn

It isn’t even a question of right or wrong. He just duck the question like a little punk.


403 posted on 08/16/2008 5:25:55 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Yea, his train of thought is “so screwed up” in his own words that the drugs must have burned his brains out. Keep waiting to see white powder blowing out of his nostrils! If Clinton has a nose like a Hoover vacuum cleaner, Obama has a nose like a Pratt and Whitney Jet Engine............on the inlet end!


404 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:05 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: GOPGuide

He’s a radical abortionist and I have no problem casting that stone.


405 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: jwalsh07
Obama wants to protect the weakest?

Obama Cover-Up Exposed on His Votes on Infanticide

Has Obama been asked about that?

406 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: MOgirl

Haha!

It really is making me sick!!!!

Oh now the “abortions should be limited” line...UGH!!! Warren just nods in agreement.


407 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:34 PM PDT by jackv
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To: Toki

He is a bald faced liar and Warren is sitting there like a lump.


408 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:35 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: pepperhead

He’s tryig to be elected as the President Of The United States. HE SETS THE AGENDA ON ALL EXECUTIVE ACTION ISSUES. This guy is TOTALLY CLUELESS as to what leadership is about.


409 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:35 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: kcvl

Define marriage...media claps.


410 posted on 08/16/2008 5:26:39 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: GOPGuide

That’s all he does — goes in circles... and can you believe Warren let the matter go — after all, he’s got 15 more questions...

oh, this is painful...


411 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:00 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: GOPGuide
I'm finding myself flipping through the channels because Osama is rambling on and saying nothing.
412 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:02 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: kcvl

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Finannces cause abortions


413 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Rightly Biased

a good way to tell if a christian is spiritually in tune to christ? if the world loves them....they must be doing something wrong. if the world hates them (for no apparent reason) — they probably are being true to faith.


415 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:40 PM PDT by applpie
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To: All

I guess he just tossed gays and abortionists under the bus.


416 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:40 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: TornadoAlley3

OMG.............. he is flipping with
each sentence.


417 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: jackv
Warren just nods in agreement.

What did you expect him to do, Obama is his boy........

418 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

yep, we don’t pay women enough to keep babies, thus they are punished with a baby.


419 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:55 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Done with it. Y’all take good notes - maybe I’ll read later. TTFN


420 posted on 08/16/2008 5:28:12 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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