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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: TornadoAlley3

“Who are the 3 people you listen to the most for advice?”

Karl Marx?


281 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:43 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: NOBAMA in 08

you are very bad...(:


282 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:07 PM PDT by firewalk
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2 wisest people Obama listens to:

1st: Wife, Michele
2nd: his Grandmother (remember that “typical white person...)
3rd: Sam Nunn ...

Reality:

Obama’s advisors are Rev. Jeremy Wright, George Clooney, President Ahmadinejad


283 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:08 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Fudd Fan
Fuddie!!! C'mon. Stay and play

Bama gonna poke and prod - Shades of Bill Clinton

284 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:14 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: Fudd Fan

Shaun Casey, who has been informally advising the Obama campaign on faith issues...

‘Jesus Was an Illegal Alien’

Casey is a visiting fellow with the far left Center For American Progress which, along with Media Matters, is heavily funded by billionaire George Soros.


285 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SE Mom

Moral failure -———— Gay sex (?)


286 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:36 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SoCalPol

RW is doing this for his own publicity, and the more controversy it engenders, the better for him.


287 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:37 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: Toki

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


288 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:49 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: TornadoAlley3
How can anyone call this guy articulate........... not only the ummmms. but he changes his train of thought constantly.
289 posted on 08/16/2008 5:08:50 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: SE Mom

I can’t focus on what he’s saying because of that mole on his honker. Has that always been there?


290 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:16 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Fudd Fan

291 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:18 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: don-o

lol, I promised Mr.FF we’d watch a movie any-who. But really, I can’t stand the smarm, mute button or no!


292 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:25 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Keep Scott Garrett in Congress - NJ 5th!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I wonder if the Secret Service has a Cheeseburger alert out!

Looks like RW might EXPLODE if one was brought out near him!


293 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:44 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Gads....... he just took a week vacation in Hawaii and he looks tired & rancid........


294 posted on 08/16/2008 5:09:53 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: GOPGuide

something about me just can’t like Rick Warren


295 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:13 PM PDT by WesA
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To: SE Mom

Rush will have a 19 minute UMmmmmm, wha wha wha........ clip tomorrow!


296 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:16 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
audience is made up of 550 media personnel, hear them clapping for the Big O?
297 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:21 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: MHGinTN

So mccain is not on til the 2nd hour??? O great!


298 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:29 PM PDT by jackv
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I hear Hawaii is hard on a person. Wouldn’t know myself, can’t afford to go there.


299 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:43 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Already stumbling around.


300 posted on 08/16/2008 5:10:47 PM PDT by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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