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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: MHGinTN

I hear Evangelicals are leaning liberal now anyways.


261 posted on 08/16/2008 5:03:53 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: SoCalPol

a FRink for each time??? LOLOL


262 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:02 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: Fudd Fan

Looks like I posted too quickly, Rick has plenty of defenders on the thread on those issues.


263 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:27 PM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

hmmm no tie...................


264 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:37 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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It’s startin!

Wish I could have popcorn though. I’m just eatin sugar instead though :D

Why he have to lock up McCain in a cone?


265 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Toki
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To: Matchett-PI

How open of you.


266 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:48 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: TornadoAlley3

BO gets standing ovation from media, BO is wearing a flag pin.


267 posted on 08/16/2008 5:04:57 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: They'reGone2000

Please donot demean Napoleon in such a disgustingly perverted way!


268 posted on 08/16/2008 5:05:05 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 (An Empty Suited Opportunist with No Redeeming Value!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

You’re reading my mind, my FRiend! I was just thinking, “do either of these jerks own ties?”


269 posted on 08/16/2008 5:05:24 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Keep Scott Garrett in Congress - NJ 5th!)
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To: SoCalPol
RW already starts out as a smart ass

Who will be in good company w/Barack Obama.

270 posted on 08/16/2008 5:05:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TornadoAlley3

Who are the 3 people you listen to the most for advice?

BO- so many people constantly help shape my views and opinions, Michelle is not only wise but she is honest.


271 posted on 08/16/2008 5:06:09 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: kcvl

Grandmother is hidden away. He’s going to listen to MICHELLE???? Oh Lord...save us now.


272 posted on 08/16/2008 5:06:48 PM PDT by Amityschild (Bringing Obama DOWN one day at a time - VRWC Member #777777777)
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To: Fudd Fan

;-)


273 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:03 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hi Tornado!

I’m bailing on this early... have the MUTE on and still can’t take it.


274 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:08 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Keep Scott Garrett in Congress - NJ 5th!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I’m here - how long - I’m not very.


275 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:09 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: TornadoAlley3
My typical white grandmother and in terms of the administration I won't restrict myself to just 3 people...
276 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:10 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Well looky here- Grandma is sitting back inside the bus...


277 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Castro, Chavez & Jong-Il........

“My grandmother”???????? Isn’t she a typical white person????????


278 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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already switched channel...watching scantily clad women (mostly) run through Peking (I’m slow to change).


279 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:35 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Fire mission!)
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Who do you look up too? /question asked

guess who isn’t going to be mentioned! (which is kind of funny since he’s in a church)

Wow... I can’t believe he mentioned his grandmother though. I guess he pulled her from under the bus for a minute.


280 posted on 08/16/2008 5:07:38 PM PDT by Toki
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