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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: MHGinTN

The DNC is actually blushing tonight

and thats not a natural occurance for that party...

It takens an Obomb by Obama to do something like that...


1,861 posted on 08/16/2008 9:09:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Girlene

Obama is saying, “If this basketball was my head, my ears would look small.”


1,862 posted on 08/16/2008 9:09:21 PM PDT by lilycicero (The darker the Barry....the grey-er the goose)
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To: AliVeritas

ding..ding....you get it.


1,863 posted on 08/16/2008 9:09:50 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: free_life

BTW I don’t believe all the lies being spread about Rick Warren and many of those doing it call themselves Christian.


1,864 posted on 08/16/2008 9:10:18 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: XR7

watched this at kinfolks gathering in Thompsons Station Tennessee about an hour south of Nashville

i thought McCain hit a home run and Obama just waxed platitudes.

it’s amazing when you get a controlled exchange like this:

unloaded questions

no gotcha

and exact same queries

this just shows how the moderators on regular media so favor the Dems

without that and the black vote the Dems would have died with McGovern


1,865 posted on 08/16/2008 9:10:53 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: mnehrling

Too bad this little forum wasn’t being held two weeks from now.


1,866 posted on 08/16/2008 9:10:59 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“Law professors are refugees from the legal profession.”

As the old saying goes: “Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.”

Obama couldn’t make it as a lawyer, so he taught.

On this interview he came across more as a political commentator, than a presidential candidate,

We need a president who is a DECISION MAKER, NOT AN EQUIVOCATOR.

He didn’t even mention terrorists as evil, after Darfur, he focused in on the “evil in the US” or “evil in us” or something like that.


1,867 posted on 08/16/2008 9:11:08 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: free_life

Right now Mccain just up

he was great...

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


1,868 posted on 08/16/2008 9:11:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: wardaddy

Mccain on again now

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


1,869 posted on 08/16/2008 9:12:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Gergen let it slip on CNN tonight ... “McCain is going to be a more formidable debating opponent than the DNC was counting on” or something to that effect.
1,870 posted on 08/16/2008 9:13:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MNReaganite

Not me.


1,871 posted on 08/16/2008 9:13:18 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: mnehrling

“Someone posted a thread from DU early on, they are not happy with their Obamessiah.”

His performance tonight was out-of-touch and his lack of knowledge on key issues is unreal. Hillary will hijack the Dem nomination next week — you watch!


1,872 posted on 08/16/2008 9:13:34 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: del4hope
Then it may be McCain vs. Hillary as Obamalamadingdong was stupid enough to fall for her little coup set up.
1,873 posted on 08/16/2008 9:14:05 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: del4hope

Yeah the Dems may change their minds at the convention

:(


1,874 posted on 08/16/2008 9:14:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: txflake; mnehrling; Prole; icwhatudo

Did not track back all the way but its something to do with his hair color being changed to gray for certain events? If you can get the photos together Malkin would love it!


1,875 posted on 08/16/2008 9:14:25 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Tennessee Nana

McCain’s superb performance was a welcome surprise.

The interviews really highlighted the differences between the positions of the candidates, but more importantly, the differences between the candidates themselves: McCain is ready to lead, Obama is not even ready for kindergarten.


1,876 posted on 08/16/2008 9:14:29 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Tennessee Nana

no kidding

no mention of clear and present enemies who attack us

only a person of color hotspot..Darfur...the left’s fav tragedy

and our own failures

what a clown he is....

this keeps up and he and McGovern will need a room together

but right now:

Ted Turner, Rick Kaplan, Speilberg, Geffen, Weinstein, Dan Abrhams, Sulzburgers, Gannett, AP, NPR and any other lefty media executive with half a brain is planning how to save barry O


1,877 posted on 08/16/2008 9:15:20 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Hillary will hijack the Dem nomination next week — you watch!

Oh yea, I am dieting this week so I can prepare for binging on kettle corn, cheesy poofs, and beer that week. It is going to be fun.

1,878 posted on 08/16/2008 9:16:23 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: wardaddy

George Clooney loves Darfur too...

its the lefts hometown right now


1,879 posted on 08/16/2008 9:17:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: icwhatudo

I’m going to do a quick vanity just to start the conversation. I’ll ping you on it.


1,880 posted on 08/16/2008 9:17:43 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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