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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: They'reGone2000
Clarence Thomas

My beeber was royally stuned by that comment.

1,501 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:40 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: newnhdad

She has been very quiet lately. Think they are hiding her like the Kerry campaign did with his drunken wife.

Gosh, that lady on Fox is one ugly woman.


1,502 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: All

John Podhoretz thinks McCain did well. “If John McCain can perform during the three debates the way he is performing tonight with Rick Warren, he will win this election.”

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/20581


1,503 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: STARWISE

Fox is trying too hard to be “balanced”. That witch is just awful.


1,504 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: Guenevere

I am not trying to be ugly to you, and I love Alan Keyes, but are you serious? Can you really not understand that your vote for Keyes is really a vote for Obama? And that doesn’t bother you? McCain was not my first, second, third or fourth choice. But against Obama, he is my ONLY choice.


1,505 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:58 PM PDT by georgiagirl_pam
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To: TornadoAlley3

1,506 posted on 08/16/2008 7:28:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Good one!


1,507 posted on 08/16/2008 7:28:09 PM PDT by library user
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To: hocndoc

Amen. I have received several emails in the past months asking me to pass on to everyone that we stop to pray for our nation on a nightly basis at 9pm eastern, 8pm central, 7pm mountain, and 6 pm pacific. It only takes a minute.


1,508 posted on 08/16/2008 7:28:25 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Most definitely. God bless and protect the Georgians.


1,509 posted on 08/16/2008 7:28:35 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: jveritas

You don’t write, you don’t call...


1,510 posted on 08/16/2008 7:28:36 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: Guenevere
..It's turning into a love fest....Sheeesh

Are you all so gullible?

I think we all are coming to the realization that our choice is Obama or McCain- that's the real world. And to quote the late, great, Winston Churchill:
In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.

1,511 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:02 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: Petronski

HEARTILY agree, though I wasn’t asked ... ;)


1,512 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:17 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Her brother is Barney Frank./Just Asking - seoul62......


1,513 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:30 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: library user

1,514 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:45 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Lol! Great potential for a song there....

;-)


1,515 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:53 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: rdl6989

Quite correct.

The Messiah knows the answer to that question.

Obama should, too... even if his answer is the wrong one, he should have given one.


1,516 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:54 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Petronski
Has McCain ever been better?

I submit that the answer is no.

I gotta agree. McCain showed me a likability that I never expected. My enthusiasm for him as president just grew from the NObama candidate to the John McCain for president candidate. Well done Mac!

1,517 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:55 PM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: mnehrling

I think you’ve nailed it.


1,518 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:58 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: rdl6989

I understand why Obama said he hates Clarence Thomas. Basically, he wants you to think he’s not a racist. He wants you to think that he hates people based on their ideology, not their color. Too little, too late, Barack.


1,519 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:13 PM PDT by library user
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To: LadyPilgrim

Hi LP (((((HUGS)))))!

I have been good. We must get together soon.


1,520 posted on 08/16/2008 7:30:16 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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