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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: blasater1960

He sure did outclass him.....acted a lot younger than Obama too....with more passion and sincerity.


1,481 posted on 08/16/2008 7:24:23 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: They'reGone2000

“And WHERE is Michelle ma belle? “

Still on vacation.


1,482 posted on 08/16/2008 7:24:32 PM PDT by flaglady47 (South Ossetia = Kosovo - thanks Bill Clinton)
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To: Shortstop7

Where is she? Anger management seminar?


1,483 posted on 08/16/2008 7:24:36 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: Sun

Yes there better not be any more talk of a pro-abortion VPP after tonight or McCain will lose the conservatives he just kinds won...

Now if he has a conversion about the illegal aliens overnight....

BIG SIGH


1,484 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: XR7
Q: Why do you wanna be president? A: "...I have the ability to build bridges..."

Somehow this comes to my mind!

1,485 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:01 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: XR7; AliVeritas

Actually he is not a malignant narcissist...he is a narcissist wannabe...he thinks that’s what Presidents are supposed to be in the US and he is acting it out. His view of America is very flawed. I’d say he is very insecure at core.


1,486 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:23 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: STARWISE

God bless you too :)


1,487 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:23 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: library user

Make a living using Ebay.

As in a person selling stuff on Ebay from home.


1,488 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:37 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: rwfromkansas

1,489 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Jemian; Iowa Granny; lysie; Molly Pitcher

Just want to go on record as saying MCCAIN CLEANED NOBAMA’S CLOCK!!!!!!

I believe this was a truly defining moment in the race.

Rick Warren was great, McCain greater - Obama was ... there. Dems should be vewy, vewy worried.


1,490 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:30 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (~~ Visualize whirled peas ~~)
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To: SE Mom

What the he*l is that old bag, Clinton loving Ann Lewis doing there? How could they?


1,491 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:31 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Please see my post #1026.


1,492 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:32 PM PDT by Walleye_Walter (No to Osama and Obama)
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To: TonyM

I think her name is Ann Lewis. Isn’t it?


1,493 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:38 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: longtermmemmory

When does the convention strat ???

Next week ???

Oh the Hugh Manatee for Obama...

Take another vacation Barry...


1,494 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: STARWISE

550 from the press? What the?

There were no Christians there then?

Kidding... I think.


1,495 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:42 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: flyfree
Ann Lewis Senior Advisor for Hillary Clinton for President, has served as the Director of Communications for HillPAC and Friends of Hillary 2005-2007 and from 1997 –2000 as Director of Communications and then Counselor to Bill Clinton.

Magnanimous of FOX to offer her a little airtime. If she had to justify her continued presence with viewership ratings, she'd flunk as badly as Al Franken did on Air America.

1,496 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:50 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: 4yearlurker

McCain has surgically removed Mr.Obamas’ nut and they now reside in a mayonaisse jar on John desk. Will the Democrats now seek a set of ovaries?


1,497 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:54 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: TonyM
One of CNN’s political reporters basically said McCain kicked Obama’s tail tonight. This coming from CNN is got to be bad news for The Messiah.
1,498 posted on 08/16/2008 7:26:59 PM PDT by McGruff (Kick Russia out of the G8, Kick them Now!)
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To: Shortstop7

Exactly. A person who has fought for his country and has two sons in the military.

I want a President with real world experience not a looser like Keyes who is wound so tight he is ready to snap.


1,499 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:00 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: newnhdad

anyone watching Cspan?? What is going on?

there is some guy all railing about abortion?He is pro life.
this is Cspan?

Now its Huckabee.


1,500 posted on 08/16/2008 7:27:40 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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