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Russian General Threatens Poland with Attack over US deal
Jerusalem Post ^ | 15 Aug 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/15/2008 6:40:42 AM PDT by docbnj

A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a US missile defense battery exposes the country to attack, pointing out that Russian military doctrine permits the use of nuclear weapons in such a situation, the Interfax news agency reported. *** Interfax said he added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn said that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, according to Interfax.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bear; belarus; bullying; coldwar; coldwar2; communsim; defenses; easterneurope; geopolitics; kgb; kremlin; mad; missile; missiledefense; nuclear; nukes; poland; putin; sovietunion; ussr; wmd
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To: rahbert

Yeah, they probably wouldn’t get too much resistance at least for a while pushing east.


61 posted on 08/15/2008 8:13:12 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Red Badger

“The Russians are insane...............”

They’re bluffing.


62 posted on 08/15/2008 8:19:38 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: docbnj
Their doctrine is pretty much that they can attack anyone they wish with nuclear weapons. We are back in the cold war with these mad dogs.

Not to worry. Barack will take care of them.
Go back to watching the Olympics, everything's under control.

/sarc
63 posted on 08/15/2008 8:30:14 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: docbnj
Has Barry Hussein uttered one word about the Russian aggression and saber rattling? Is the messiah saving his pearls of wisdom for a more opportune time?
64 posted on 08/15/2008 8:32:01 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Any day above ground is a good day.)
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To: contemplator
Even though deep down I really want to find a way to criticise Russia over this, I’m having a hard time justifying a reason to myself.

You really can't appreciate the difference between defensive arms and offensive ones? ...or the differences in the intents of the respective countries?

Are you also one who thinks all killing is equally immoral, regardless of whether such killing is premeditated murder or self-defense?

65 posted on 08/15/2008 8:39:42 AM PDT by TChris (Vote John McCain: Democrat Lite -- 3% less liberal than a regular Democrat!)
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To: docbnj

And here is Russia threatening the use of nuclear weapons during the 2008 Olympics in Communist China.

Ain’t life grand?


66 posted on 08/15/2008 9:01:09 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Peace Sucks. It means that somewhere there are terrorists that no one is shooting at.)
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To: meatloaf

Makes sense to me.

But with a little help, Israel can take care of Iran quickly.


67 posted on 08/15/2008 9:04:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: docbnj

One of these days that hooch is going to get you into trouble, Anatoli.


68 posted on 08/15/2008 9:09:20 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: docbnj

psy war. just ignore em


69 posted on 08/15/2008 9:12:50 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2008 for AmericanInTokyo. Not Socialist. Not RINO. Nope! ...."Indie-Conservative" ALL THE WAY!!!)
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To: contemplator
“...Russia’s missiles in Cuba were offensive nuclear missiles where Poland will have defensive missiles...’

Yeah, I missed that distinction entirely.

You weren't too far off. What the defensive missiles do is change the Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) balance. That's what has got the Russians so ticked off. Increasing our offensive missiles or reducing the effectiveness of their offensive missiles. The results are similar either way.

70 posted on 08/15/2008 9:15:50 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: TChris
Are you also one who thinks all killing is equally immoral, regardless of whether such killing is premeditated murder or self-defense?

Strawman argument directed against someone who posted a simple comment. Do you always blow things out of proportion?

71 posted on 08/15/2008 9:17:09 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: docbnj

The Russian Bear has turned rabid again. And half of America wants to reincarnate Jimmy Carter in the person of Barak Obama. The world has gone insane.


72 posted on 08/15/2008 9:19:05 AM PDT by rockthecasbah (He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.)
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To: scan59
You weren't too far off. What the defensive missiles do is change the Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) balance. That's what has got the Russians so ticked off. Increasing our offensive missiles or reducing the effectiveness of their offensive missiles. The results are similar either way

And for the record, before I'm attacked here, I believe we need a massive missile defensive system AGAINST Russia. (Screw this "against Iran" business.) I'm still angry that the Democrats have been trying to block this ever since Reagan. We have the technology and have proven it can work. Let's do it!

73 posted on 08/15/2008 9:22:14 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: ArchAngel1983

I am fed up with Russian and Cuban expectations that we do nothing against Cuba. We should move, and it must be now.

And give Ukraine NATO membership.


74 posted on 08/15/2008 9:25:53 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Monkey Face; MajorChaos; rrstar96; Arthur Wildfire! March; Lorianne; ZULU; bayouranger; Grimmy; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

75 posted on 08/15/2008 9:29:27 AM PDT by lizol
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To: SatinDoll
And give Ukraine NATO membership.

I agree. And they need to do that quick.

76 posted on 08/15/2008 9:39:32 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: docbnj
Hey top General Dumb@$$, that is exactly why Poland accepted the US missile defense system, because of the Rabid Russian Bear's barbaric behavior towards all freedom loving people.

Russian chose South Ossetia over the USA. Now General Dumb@$$, Russia is reaping the rewards she so unwisely sowed.

77 posted on 08/15/2008 9:42:13 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
I just heard a radio talk show host jokingly taking about the new conspiracy theory.... He is saying that there are some left wing wackos now saying that this whole thing ( Russia attacking Georgia ) was planned by Dick Chenney so Obama won't win the election.

Not a joke, unfortunately. Some of the Russian media is saying that. IIRC, they're quoting a high-ranking Russian official.

78 posted on 08/15/2008 9:44:25 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

We still have the B1-B’s, they were designed to carry a rotary nuclear clear missile launcher. We don’t arm them this way due to one of the SALT treaties. We still have a bunch of warheads if we need them and a bunch of different platforms to fire them from if needed.


79 posted on 08/15/2008 9:51:26 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Vroomfondel
It figures that the MSM and Liberals will use this as their talking points.
Goes to show you were the Liberals . MSM loyalties are.
80 posted on 08/15/2008 9:56:19 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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