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New England Journal of Medicine: 'Brain Death' is not Death - Organ Donors are Alive
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| 8/14/08
| John-Henry Westen
Posted on 08/15/2008 5:32:34 AM PDT by wagglebee
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The two authors of the article in the NEJM, both proponents of organ donation, argue that "as an ethical requirement for organ donation, the dead donor rule has required unnecessary and unsupportable revisions of the definition of death." The mainstream media will BURY this news.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:32:34 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:33:00 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; Dante3
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:33:28 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: 230FMJ; 50mm; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; An American In Dairyland; ...
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:34:40 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:35:16 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
To: wagglebee
Monty Python was WAY ahead of the curve on this one. They had a “Live Organ Donor Sketch” in the early 1970s...
“We’re here for your Liver”
“WHAT?”
“Your liver! You DID sign this organ doner card, didn’t you?”
etc. etc.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:38:40 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: wagglebee
It is always interesting when science fiction become science fact.
Larry Niven wrote an entire series of SF novels about this.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:42:06 AM PDT
by
fireforeffect
(A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
To: wagglebee
That's right! We've been saying that here FOR YEARS. I will not be an organ donor nor will I accept one. Although the organs are donated for "free", somebody dies and the profit margin is in the surgeries and all the sub chapter corporations we don't hear about.
China has holding cells underground full of healthy donors who aren't in lock step with the regime. Do we really want to keep euthanizing people for profit???????
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:45:10 AM PDT
by
floriduh voter
( Florida's Governor Crist has roined Floriduh but he's having fun so what the hey?)
To: Red Badger
Can someone post that picture of the Monty Python skit where the man is arguing over whether he’s dead?
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:45:44 AM PDT
by
Steve0113
(Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
To: wagglebee
I have refused to be an organ donor, knowing that there are philosophers around who constantly redefine what it means to be a person, and how they don’t think disabled and comatose human beings are sentient, worthy of protection, etc.
These people teach hospital personnel who are apparently putting the lessons into practice.
If it were otherwise, I would be an organ donor, and I know others who feel the same way.
If we could trust the hospital staff to make sure people were really dead before they sliced them open, we might have alot more available organs.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:45:58 AM PDT
by
fetal heart beats by 21st day
(Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
To: wagglebee
I signed my organ donor card, and knowing that what is in this article may indeed be true, I will still remain a donor. I think it would be an extremely small number of cases where brain death occurs and yet somehow the patient would later regain consciousness.
Where this info is important is in cases where they want to take people off life support citing statistics saying they will never recover...that is different than being an informed organ donor.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:46:32 AM PDT
by
Bobalu
(If you don't want people pointing out your flaws, maybe you should work on not having any)
To: floriduh voter
I do believe that there IS an ethical method for organ donation, but we’re nowhere close to it now.
It looks like if we continue to do ETHICAL stem cell research and quit killing 3500 babies every day, organ donation may become a thing of the past anyway:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2062292/posts
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:48:36 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Steve0113
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:48:56 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
To: wagglebee
He's only mostly dead. /MiracleMax
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:51:23 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
To: fireforeffect; wagglebee
Larry Niven wrote an entire series of SF novels about this. The Gil the A.R.M. story cycle to be specific, although there are echos of it in most of Niven's other universes. Well worth a read (as are all the Known Space stories), if you can find any of it. I think it has been out of print for a while.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:53:39 AM PDT
by
jboot
(Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
To: wagglebee
(The msm will bury this news)
The msm is brain dead.
To: jincarolina
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:56:18 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Bobalu
I think it would be an extremely small number of cases where brain death occurs and yet somehow the patient would later regain consciousness. ONE is too many.
Where this info is important is in cases where they want to take people off life support citing statistics saying they will never recover...that is different than being an informed organ donor.
There are ways to be an organ donor WITHOUT putting it on your license.
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posted on
08/15/2008 5:58:47 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: fetal heart beats by 21st day; floriduh voter
I don’t have any objection to somebody having my organs as long as I’m REALLY DEAD. But I WILL NOT be killed off just to get to them.
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posted on
08/15/2008 6:00:15 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
08/15/2008 6:00:55 AM PDT
by
PGalt
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