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Great Britain: One third of whites claim they are victims of racism
The Evening Standard (U.K.) ^ | August 12, 2008

Posted on 08/12/2008 10:07:59 AM PDT by Stoat

One third of whites claim they are victims of racism

Last updated at 10:16am on 12.08.08
 

A growing number of white people believe they are the victims of racial prejudice in Britain, official research has found. 

Almost one in three - 29 per cent - said they now expected to be treated worse than other races by key public services.
 

And the number of whites claiming to have been refused a job or discriminated against at work for reasons of race has doubled in the last five years, according to the Government study. 

 
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Flashback: Riots in Burnley, Lancs, 2001 when whites and Asians clashed. Many white residents claimed Asians were favoured by the authorities

Seven per cent believed they had failed to win a promotion because of their race, up from three per cent in 2003.
 

Three per cent alleged they had been turned down for a job for the same reason, up from one per cent.
 

In addition, the study reveals that most ethnic minorities living in Britain feel stronger ties to the nation than whites.
 

One in six white Britons feel only a slight sense of belonging to the nation.
 

Whites also now feel less able than other ethnic groups to influence decisions affecting their local area and the country as a whole. 

For example, 41 per cent of black African, 36 per cent of Bangladeshi and 35 per cent of Indian people feel they have a say in decisions affecting Britain, compared to 19 per cent of white people.
 

The survey of 15,000 people - ordered by Communities Secretary Hazel Blears - is likely to prompt a fierce debate about the disillusionment of the white majority.
 

The Tories blame Labour's race relations strategy.
 

Tory communities spokesman Baroness Warsi said: 'It's no wonder more people feel there is an increase in racism when Labour's multicultural industry is forever talking up what divides us rather than concentrating on what unites us.'
 

The research found that overall, whites are more likely than those from ethnic minorities to believe that racial prejudice and discrimination is getting worse.
 

Fifty-eight per cent said they believe there was more racial prejudice now than five years ago, compared to 44 per cent who were interviewed in 2001.

The figure for ethnic minority communities has hardly changed, at 32 per cent.
 

The survey found that 29 per cent of white people expect to be treated worse than other groups by at least one of eight public services, including the police, prisons, courts, Crown Prosecution service, probation service, local housing organisations, schools or GPs.
 

Whites identified council housing departments or housing associations as the most likely to discriminate against them.
 

The proportion of members of ethnic minority groups who expected to face discrimination from one of the eight bodies fell from 38 per cent in 2001 to 34 per cent.

But it remains higher than for white people in many categories, particularly the police.
 

Tory MP Greg Hands, a member of the Commons communities and local government select committee, said: 'It's a dangerous phenomenon if any part of the population feels they are being systematically discriminated against.'
 

Overall, 84 per cent of people felt they belonged strongly to the country, including 45 per cent who said they belonged very strongly.
 

However, nine out of ten Pakistani and Indian people said they felt a strong sense of belonging, compared to 84 per cent of whites.
 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: affirmativeadvantage; britain; diversity; england; greatbritain; multiculturalism; race; racism; uk; unitedkingdom
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One in six white Britons feel only a slight sense of belonging to the nation.
 

Whites also now feel less able than other ethnic groups to influence decisions affecting their local area and the country as a whole. 

For example, 41 per cent of black African, 36 per cent of Bangladeshi and 35 per cent of Indian people feel they have a say in decisions affecting Britain, compared to 19 per cent of white people.
 

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One naturally wonders how these and other related stats would compare with those here in the USA.

1 posted on 08/12/2008 10:07:59 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

The existence of the “Affirmative Action” programs in the US, means that 100% of whites in America are victims of racism.


2 posted on 08/12/2008 10:11:11 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Stoat
The Tories blame Labour's race relations strategy.

Isn't multiculturalism grand?.....................Let's all have a great big old group hug and sing Kumbaya.............

3 posted on 08/12/2008 10:12:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Stoat
One naturally wonders how these and other related stats would compare with those here in the USA.

The degree of white disaffection would likely be greater in Britain than in America as a whole, although certain of the most liberal states, such as California and New York, would come close to the British figures. The UK has been ruled by the Labour Party, equivalent to the left wing of the Democrats, for well over a decade. Additionally, local and state governments in the U.S. have more latitude than their equivalents in Britain. Thus, more conservative states like Texas or Oklahoma are less likely to push for radical egalitarianism or engage in favortism to nonwhites than, say, Oregon or Connecticut.

5 posted on 08/12/2008 10:15:18 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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Polls like this also beg the question of what the figures would be like if the respondents weren’t terrified of being labeled a racist if they gave the ‘wrong’ answer?


6 posted on 08/12/2008 10:17:51 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: EyeGuy
The existence of the “Affirmative Action” programs in the US, means that 100% of whites in America are victims of racism.

In the UK they just give it a different name.

Great Britain'I was refused a job because I'm white' (It's legal and it's called Positive Action)

7 posted on 08/12/2008 10:25:11 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: EyeGuy

The existence of the “Affirmative Action” programs in the US, means that 100% of whites in America are victims of racism.


White women qualify for affirmative action programs, as do white military veterans and white disabled persons. In some states and municipalities white elderly and white gays and lesbians also qualify for affirmative action.


8 posted on 08/12/2008 10:26:16 AM PDT by jamese777
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Yes, but IN PRACTICE we know that it is overwhelmingly based on race, specifically blacks. I know people in all of those demographic groups, but am unaware of ANY of them receiving AA benefits.

White military males get AA benefits? On what possible basis? AA is designed to remedy discrimination. They are discriminated against because they are ex-military?


9 posted on 08/12/2008 10:33:52 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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I believe if you went through a tape of virtually any large public meeting of African American (like Tavis Smiley's yearly state of the black nation conference C-Span covers every year, NAACP, Obama’s Church, etc. and transcribed every remark critical of whites, “white America”, the “white man” which received audience applause, select the most hostile and radical of those remarks
and then
assembled a large randomly selected audience of whites (Americans whose ancestors were of European Caucasians origin) and had speakers repeat the above transcribed more radical remarks with ‘black’ or ‘African American’ substituted for white that those remarks would be greeted with boos not applause and that white audience members would stand up and verbally attack the speakers, shout them down and if that was not successful walk out.

It is a simple fact of American life that a black audience will not just tolerate but applaud anti-white hate speech and a white audience will react very negatively to anti-black hate speech.

10 posted on 08/12/2008 10:41:51 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Stoat

Same is going on here and blacks are a lot harder on poor whites than whites are on poor blacks. My sister worked as a supervisor for DHS in the Dallas. By the time she retired in 05 it was pretty bad.
My sister was dieing so her office was moved to an exit near a ramp and disabled parking.Shortly after that a black program director was appointed and promptly moved my sister to a back office with lots of stairs to climb and near a parking lot they called the “north 40”. She also started dumping all the work the slacker didn’t do onto my sister and her secretary. What the program director was good at was not getting to work on time or not at all, being rude and taking credit for other peoples work.
I would take her to the office on weekends to work (no overtime because she was a supervisor). Here would come the b clerks and caseworkers with their kids, radios and portable tv’s to hang out for the day because they qualified for overtime.Not much work was done.
I know for a fact there are some things that workers are not allowed to say to clients but blacks said were rude and said what they wanted. There were a lot of nice people of all races working in that office but many were not.


11 posted on 08/12/2008 10:44:46 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: EyeGuy

Yes, but IN PRACTICE we know that it is overwhelmingly based on race, specifically blacks. I know people in all of those demographic groups, but am unaware of ANY of them receiving AA benefits.

White military males get AA benefits? On what possible basis? AA is designed to remedy discrimination. They are discriminated against because they are ex-military?


White females have been the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action programs. That’s where female police officers, firefighters (they used to be called fireMEN and trade unionists come from).
Its called “Veteran’s Preference”: http://www.usajobs.gov/EI3.asp
Veterans get an automatic ten point bump in civil service exams.


12 posted on 08/12/2008 10:45:06 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Jonah Johansen

The ‘sermons’ of ‘Reverend’ Wright come to mind, where the ‘parishoners’ ebullience erupts into unrestrained jumping-out-of-their-seats glee when antiwhite statements are made.


13 posted on 08/12/2008 10:48:45 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: jamese777

The larger point being that ANY time AA is applied, 100% of the excluded group is a “victim”.

Males whenever discrimination is applied to benefit females.

“Breeders” whenever discrimination is applied to benefit gays.

And as I said, 100% of whites whenever AA is applied to benefit “persons of color”.


14 posted on 08/12/2008 10:57:35 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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The Brits brought this upon themselves with successive Labor/liberal governments. During the mid 1960’s we have a family friend from the UK who was complaining about the arrival of huge numbers of third world types who were immediately on the dole and were involved in taking the crime rates to levels never seen in the UK.
They should have listened to Enoch Powell who spoke the truth but the press in the UK (the most evil press in the free world) was able to brand the insightful Powell as a vile racist. Many Brits wanted to show themselves as morally superior to the United States which was undergoing unrest of a similar nature but on a much greater scale.
Well now the Brits have a terrible problem that will probably destroy them as a civil society. I give them little chance of survival. The chattering classes at the BBC and other institutions are worried about so called Global Warming (as if the UK could solve the problem by itself, they are delusional). Things don't look good for the mother country. Better think of emigrating to US, Canada, Australia, etc. Sorry UK, you have nobody to blame but your own politicans.
15 posted on 08/12/2008 11:00:21 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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Theodore Dalrymple has said, multiculturalism is a "divide and conquer" strategy devised by the left to break down the institutions which resist the imposition of socialism. The allegation is a coldly serious one: Liberals intend to inject racial discord into a society to weaken the society to the point where it gives up on itself and accepts socialism.

Accepting the premise, means that we are in a lose lose situation. Even as we decry the very cynicism of playing the race card as Obama had done, or as we decry the racism of affirmative action, or as the Brits complain of their ill-treatment as whites by a bureaucracy committed to political correctness, we think that we have unmasked an evil. We think that once the evil is identified society will take steps to correct it.

The diabolical implication of the divide and conquer strategy which is the essence of multiculturalism, is that our reaction, our indignation, is just as strategically effective to the left as the inequity visited upon us itself. The left is in a win-win situation. The more they play the race card, the more we become indignant, the more the races are set against each other.


16 posted on 08/12/2008 11:11:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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“...Veterans get an automatic ten point bump in civil service exams...”

That 10 points is earned, not given!


17 posted on 08/12/2008 11:17:14 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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Nathan, my compliments. A brilliant analysis. I will use your arguments in my own circle of friends and relatives. I've have long believed the exact same things but have not been able to put it into as good words as you just did. Thanks again.
18 posted on 08/12/2008 11:18:18 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: nathanbedford

ping


19 posted on 08/12/2008 11:54:24 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: nathanbedford

Very eloquent sir. Hat tip.

So then, is the Christ-like answer to simply turn-the-other-cheek, thus breaking the cycle of resentment?

I understand Dalrymple’s point, but to me evil, injustice (as in Affirmative Action), and falsehoods need to exposed to the light of day.

I was about to acknowledge that the Socialist’s diabolical strategy is a very clever one, but then realized that they are simply destroying; destroying centuries-old institutions, which any fool with a claw-hammer can do. It is the assemblage of an organized, just, constuctive society that is difficult.


20 posted on 08/12/2008 12:00:13 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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