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Cold War II?--Russia's invasion of Georgia -- and its menacing message to the United States.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 11, 2008 | Stephen Brown

Posted on 08/11/2008 4:57:31 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 08/11/2008 4:57:31 AM PDT by SJackson
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The real message is not meant for the United States — it is aimed at Europe (especially the ‘New Europe’), as well as at Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, UAE, Qatar, etc...

And the message is, “America is a fair-weather friend and an unreliable ally”...

Message received, and lesson learned....


2 posted on 08/11/2008 5:02:34 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)
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It's amazing how quickly a society (ours) can forget recent history. Many in their 20’s and 30’s don't have an appreciation of what the Soviet Union was and the threat that it posed. The liberal spin that the USSR was never as big a threat as the conservatives made it out to be has been successfully propagated. History may be about to repeat itself.
3 posted on 08/11/2008 5:05:43 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Bill Clinton’s and Madeline Halfbright’s unconscionable war against Serbia in the late 1990s, and the West’s foolish recognition of Kosovo independence set all of this in motion. All Russia has to say is “Hey, all we’re doing is what you did vis-a-vis Serbia and Kosovo: If that was right for you, then this is right for us.”

The debacle of the Clinton presidency will conitnue to burn American interests for generations to come.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 5:09:11 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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On Sunday, its tanks were reportedly following the retreating Georgians into their country and closing in on Gori, the birthplace of Joseph Stalin.

It all sounds so... PROPHETIC!

5 posted on 08/11/2008 5:13:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SJackson

One word: Kosovo....


6 posted on 08/11/2008 5:15:21 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: SJackson
Finally something informative instead or speculation and propaganda.
7 posted on 08/11/2008 5:18:51 AM PDT by McGruff (In loving memory of a lost FRiend YaYa123.)
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To: ought-six

well stated!! thanks!!!


8 posted on 08/11/2008 5:23:44 AM PDT by righteousindignation
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To: SJackson

This is the best analysis of the situation I have read yet.


9 posted on 08/11/2008 5:28:20 AM PDT by livius
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Comparisons to the Soviet Union are inapt. What made the Soviet Union dangerous was its Communist ideology, which died in 1991.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 5:30:47 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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The ideology never died, it just went underground.

Under Putin, it is making a resurgence. There is no doubt Putin is a communist and that he intends upon making Russia a communist nation once again.


11 posted on 08/11/2008 5:37:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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Putin is a neo-communist, the marriage of Totalitarian Communism with Criminal Capture of Wealth....very much as the Red Chinese and also mimics the Nazi’s of last Century.


12 posted on 08/11/2008 5:44:40 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Uncle Ike

Very sad and very very true. I’ve heard the phrase “not worth it” on here and in the real world and that is exactly what the message is to all the countries of the world.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 6:09:58 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Elsie

Yeah, throw in that it started on 08-08-08 and you got some prophecies to explore, ha.

Seriously, it is a bit surreal.


14 posted on 08/11/2008 6:10:40 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: livius
"This is the best analysis of the situation I have read yet."

Dittos, but I still haven't figured it out...

Former Yugoslavia splits up into how many, six countries? With NATO help each new country has to fight off the Serbs, but each in turn is recognized internationally.

Except for one, Kosovo. Kosovo, we are told, can't be independent because it was once part of Serbia and had a Serb majority, many years ago.

Now, since NATO supported independent Kosovo, they say we have to let EVERY ethnic minority declare its independence, especially those Russians living in Georgia.

Hmmmmmm.... And just who is telling us this? The Russians?

Oh my... do you mean THOSE Russians? The same ones who have dozens of little ethnic groups scattered all around Russia, each one of which would just love to form it's own country and declare its own independence from "Mother Russia?"

So THOSE Russians are telling us we have to accept the break-away of Georgia's South Ossetia?

Why does this not compute?

15 posted on 08/11/2008 6:12:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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To: SJackson
Can someone explain, in what way does this:

equate to this?:


16 posted on 08/11/2008 6:22:00 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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If it's legitimate for Kosovo to unilaterally secede from Kosove, it's legitimate for South Osseita as wall. For Aztlan too should the number of Mexican citizens reach critical mass, but not for areas of the West Bank with Jewish majorities.

Obviously these things are determined by force, but diplomatically our double standards are on display.

17 posted on 08/11/2008 7:07:25 AM PDT by SJackson (Sell San Francisco to China to finance Obama health care, Bill O'Reilly)
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To: ought-six
Bill Clinton’s and Madeline Halfbright’s unconscionable war against Serbia in the late 1990s, and the West’s foolish recognition of Kosovo independence set all of this in motion. All Russia has to say is “Hey, all we’re doing is what you did vis-a-vis Serbia and Kosovo: If that was right for you, then this is right for us.”....The debacle of the Clinton presidency will conitnue to burn American interests for generations to come.

All true, though we can simply tell them to stuff it. Imagine a President Obama, he'd be apologizing for our actions and cede the former Soviet satellites.

18 posted on 08/11/2008 7:10:30 AM PDT by SJackson (Sell San Francisco to China to finance Obama health care, Bill O'Reilly)
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Let’s Perestroika Russia once again LOL


19 posted on 08/11/2008 8:23:36 AM PDT by Wiz (Here comes my smokin' gun)
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The real lesson for our deluded, doe-eyed, pie-in-the-sky "leaders" in both parties in modern America is that nationalism and realpolitik still rule the roost among most nations. Like most countries, Russia is going to try and protect their own perceived best interests.

The "New World Order" has been shown to be a spectacular flop, as surely anyone with a brain must realize by now.

20 posted on 08/11/2008 9:54:44 AM PDT by jpl ("Present." - Barack Obama)
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