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U.S. suggests Russia wants "regime change" in Georgia
Reuters ^ | 10 August 2008 | By Louis Charbonneau

Posted on 08/10/2008 1:28:02 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States suggested on Sunday that Russia was interested in "regime change" in Georgia after Moscow rejected Tbilisi's offer of a cease-fire in the separatist region of South Ossetia.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had told U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the president of Georgia "must go," the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad, told the Security Council.

Khalilzad then looked straight at Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin and asked if Moscow was looking for "regime change."

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; condi; condirice; geopolitics; georgia; khalilzad; regimechange; rice; russia; southossetia
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To: JustDoItAlways
I believe the righteous position is to side with the South Ossetian people here against Georgia.

Then you are a Soviet loyalist, a Putin apologist, and a troll. And you're on borrowed time here.

81 posted on 08/10/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: su531
What is Russia's excuse? BBC caught Russia in the act of acting like they always do - barbarians.

Here is a very good report of what is going on OUTSIDE South Ossetia. Where will Pootie-Poot stop his aggression? (Thank MarMema for the BBC link)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7552958.stm

82 posted on 08/10/2008 8:41:36 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: su531
Osetia is a country were leaves Ossetians.

Osettia is not a country.

83 posted on 08/10/2008 9:52:59 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Russian peacekeepers. That's funny, I don't care who you are.

LOL!

so....does this mean you're not going for it?.......;)

84 posted on 08/10/2008 9:57:32 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SkyPilot

A picture says a thousand words. Those two juxtaposed were pretty harsh but accurate.

Ouch!

Why would any future US ally trust us? We threw the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein under the bus.

You can disagree with me, but don’t ever come back and wonder why “golly gee willikers, countries and regimes aren’t willing to partner with the US. If you have our back, we’ll have yours.”


85 posted on 08/10/2008 10:05:50 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Chgogal

What photo editing is he doing?


86 posted on 08/10/2008 10:07:27 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Chgogal
You are purposefully editing pictures

I didn't "edit" anything. When you make false claims like that, it is evidence you are reaching.

It is a picture that is all over the web. Moreover, I didn't think Bush should have gone to China in the first place. It played right into the Chinese's hand, whose human rights record is abysmal.

Further, he should have left the Olympics when war broke out in Georgia, rather than engage in bikini babe photos.

87 posted on 08/11/2008 2:50:10 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Roger. Thanks.


88 posted on 08/11/2008 2:50:55 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Yup. And this is why the US looks like a lousy friend.

We helped in Iraq - now help us, beg Georgians

(David Mdzinarishvili/REUTERS) A mother and child in the ravaged Georgian city of Gori, where at least 17 people were killed at the weekend when Russian jets bombed apartment blocks

89 posted on 08/11/2008 2:53:29 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: FreeReign
You are 100% correct. Just like you said, it is being reported that he patted her lower back instead of spanking her bottom.

I can't post the link because it is AFP, but here is what it said in this morning's Daily Telegraph.

May-Treanor then appeared to offer Mr Bush, who later went on to make a statement about the developing situation in Georgia, to spank her bottom as a symbol of encouragement. He took a more restrained view, tapping her lightly on the lower back instead.

I would say the "statment about the developing situation in Georgia" got a bit muddled.

He should leave China and go home.

Note to the mods - this photo is from Reuters, not AP.


90 posted on 08/11/2008 3:08:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SunStar
Ok... Southern California wishes to leave the United States, claim Mexican citizenship, and launch attacks on American forces from within Southern California. Are you okay with that?

First off I wish the hell all of CA would break away. and Vermont and MA and as soon as I myself leave NY, then NY too.

and we are already getting attacked by Mexicans....so whats new.

91 posted on 08/11/2008 3:49:01 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Sounds to me like the Georgians bit off more than they could chew. A rogue state leaves Georgia and returns to mother Russia, so the Georgians attack arguably the 2nd most powerful state in the world.

What were they thinking??


92 posted on 08/11/2008 3:50:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: JustDoItAlways
In any event, the world will be a more peaceful place if we just let break-away regions break-away and become independent states. You can’t force people to live together and if they don’t want to, just separate them and things will be fine.

Bullies exist, and don't stay separated without some unfriendly persuasion. Are they just oppressed people who want to be left alone, or are they tools of expansionist Russian bullies, bent on recreating the USSR? There's some of both, IMO.
93 posted on 08/11/2008 4:17:59 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: SkyPilot

Why didn’t you publish the picture of Bush standing in front of a church supporting Christians?

That was my point. You chose the pictures that conveyed YOUR feelings about Bush. You were as bad as DU, the DNC, etc.

Many people did not watch the Olympics and are unaware of why “Misty’s” butt is pointing in the President’s direction. You chose that picture because it conveyed your frustrations and anger.

You did not chose a picture of him cycling the Olympic cycling venue. I can go on forever and ever.


94 posted on 08/11/2008 4:52:01 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: miliantnutcase
It's the choice of pictures. He could have chosen the picture of Bush standing in front of a Christian church supporting religion in China. Instead he chose the volleyball picture and plopped it next to the tragic Georgia Bombing picture. In an earlier thread I explain the volleyball picture that was chosen instead of the church picture.

He chose the pair of pictures to express he feelings about Bush. The way he displayed those two pictures in one showing is something that CNN, the DNC, KOS and Obama would do. That was my point. Of course he is free to do as he pleases. And I am free to criticize as I please. I just thought the choice was poor.

95 posted on 08/11/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: SkyPilot

Der Spiegel has good pictures too. And the BBC has an excellent video report if you haven’t seen it. I have posted the link a few times. You will find it very interesting.


96 posted on 08/11/2008 5:01:09 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Chgogal; SkyPilot
Do you have a problem with ME practicing my free speech?

If you are calling for "authorities" to silence someone that you don't agree with (pinging the Mods) then you bet your ass I do.

You seem to be able to bitch, moan and cast stones. Why don't you honestly try to refute his post? Because you cannot?

97 posted on 08/11/2008 6:05:04 AM PDT by Eaker (I'm voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I think they want slightly more than that, frankly...


98 posted on 08/11/2008 6:08:31 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: FreeReign

Are you going to sing “Feelings” next?

Your response was juvenile and not worthy of more than an electron or two in response.

I guess old dudes patting young chicks on the butt supersedes supporting Georgia during an attack by Russia. I see your priorities.


99 posted on 08/11/2008 6:10:33 AM PDT by Eaker (I'm voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Thanks Dawn,
I was hoping I’d hear how Poland and other formerly “captive countries” would view this aggression by Russia. This is such a sticky situation. It just goes to show that these countries know what is at stake when dealing with Russia.


100 posted on 08/11/2008 6:10:45 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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