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Raping Georgia: Russia Invades An American Ally
New York Post ^ | 8/9/2008 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 08/09/2008 8:17:55 AM PDT by dr_who

AS I write, Russian tanks grind into a brave and isolated democratic state.

Assuming that the world's attention would focus on Beijing, Moscow stage-managed an elaborate act of aggression against Georgia.

But the world has changed since Soviet tanks rolled unchallenged into Afghanistan at Christmastime 29 years ago. Global communications now spotlight aggression instantly. remainder of article at website

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: allies; caucasus; geopolitics; georgia; ossetia; russia; southossetia; war
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To: dr_who

Assuming that the world’s attention would focus on Beijing, Moscow stage-managed an elaborate act of aggression against Georgia.==

What a lie:). Truth is just opposite. Georgia attacked Russian peacekeepers and citizens so russia came to rescue and defend them.


61 posted on 08/09/2008 10:26:26 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: ZULU; bayouranger; Grimmy; Reform Canada; SLB; Neu Pragmatist; the lastbestlady; Borax Queen; ...
Eastern European ping list

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

62 posted on 08/09/2008 10:27:15 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: RusIvan

Oh really? Were there any Russian “peacekeepers” around the pipeline in Tblisi, and if so, why were your buddies bombing them?


63 posted on 08/09/2008 10:43:26 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: RusIvan
I must admit that I am very torn on this and part of me does think that Russia had very little option but to invade to protect the Russian citizens. Dad who is virtually house bound watches an immense amount of TV from various sources, UK, worldwide and US as we have cable and satellite TV and your comments were his first comments to me when we heard of the invasion.

I understand how many people on this board feel though as Georgia has been very supportive of America and in particular the Bush Administration

64 posted on 08/09/2008 10:46:53 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: dr_who
I'm not sure where I stand on this, in light of the disgraceful U.S. policy towards Kosovo.

One of the best-kept secrets of the Russia-Chechnya conflict was the level of support among U.S. political leaders for the Chechen separatist movement. This dirty little secret was pretty much swept under the rug after the Beslan school massacre, of course.

65 posted on 08/09/2008 10:48:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: dr_who

Bump for later reading of the spin!


66 posted on 08/09/2008 10:49:56 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: ASOC
Back in 1998-99 some so-called "neo-conservative" think tanks pushed hard for the Clinton administration to topple Slobodan Milosevic and support Kosovo's independence.

There's an open letter to Bill Clinton from a bunch of these jackasses floating around somewhere on the Internet (I think it was published in the New York Times). You'd be shocked at how many of the names on that letter look so familiar . . . mainly because they ended up in key positions in this Bush administration.

There's no reason to lay the blame for Kosovo at the feet of the Clinton administration. The current administration is 100% on board with that empire-building agenda.

67 posted on 08/09/2008 10:54:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: DTogo

America’s fault, right?


68 posted on 08/09/2008 11:01:14 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: F-117A

Bound to be plenty of that, although it probably won’t be able to keep up with events.


69 posted on 08/09/2008 11:15:54 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who

This is the true war for oil.


70 posted on 08/09/2008 11:45:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: RusIvan
Russian peacekeepers

That's funny, I don't care who you are.

71 posted on 08/09/2008 12:02:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
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To: dr_who
I’m sure we meant what we said whenever we told the Russians that a missile shield is a purely defensive measure against rogue states that threaten regional security. But Russians are a paranoid lot with a history of lousy political leadership. With the pronouncements that routinely come from their leaders, you can understand what a deep appreciation for irony the Russians have. Difficult to convince them to trust us even if we aren’t going out of our way to make them nervous.

Russia is slow to trust because they believe (rightly or wrongly) that NATO promised not to expand further East after Two Plus Four Treat. Of course NATO did expand East afterwards and the weak Russia did nothing about it at the time. It is not surprising that Russia sees the missile shield and radar with multipurpose use as further creep of NATO into its 'near abroad'.
72 posted on 08/09/2008 12:14:27 PM PDT by eladamry
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You know, Russian peacekeepers. Like they sent to Berlin in ‘53, and Budapest in ‘56, and Prague in ‘68 and...


73 posted on 08/09/2008 12:29:28 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: dr_who
Russia is providing security against a country (Georgia) that went into a soverign nation/state.

Where is your outrage when the Croatian Army went into Bosnia?

74 posted on 08/09/2008 12:30:03 PM PDT by ma bell (Screw the Illegal Aliens... ps - they are illegal aliens..not "undocumented workers")
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To: dr_who

It looks like a tough neighborhood.
75 posted on 08/09/2008 12:45:58 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: dr_who
I think it will be a Mexican standoff. The days are gone when the Red Army could march in and take over small countries without firing a shot. Russia is having its nose bloodied. The Georgians are not the Czechs of 1968.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

76 posted on 08/09/2008 12:47:19 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

I wonder how often the USN does a goodwill cruise in the Black Sea.


77 posted on 08/09/2008 12:52:38 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who; Jeff Head; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; ..
I think I found a good source for maps. This place looks like a witch's brew, IMHO.

Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection

SOUTH OSSETIA’S VLADIKAVKAZ CONNECTION There's some interesting history.

If the Georgians have enough anti-tank and anti-aircraft guided missiles, this looks like really bad terrain for Ivan, just like it was bad news for the Nazis. Ivan might appreciate a way to save face.

78 posted on 08/09/2008 1:50:07 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

No sign of that happening so far. Quite the opposite, in fact.


79 posted on 08/09/2008 1:54:10 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: snugs
Snugs...it looks like Russia has been planning for action for some time.
80 posted on 08/09/2008 2:15:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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