As for me, I have a working relationship with local law enforcement, and they know that I will probably consent if they need to come to talk to me (after a phone call to my lawyer) when they come during daytime, but a night raid on an FFL-SOT holder will get them into a belt-fed firefire fight in a residential neighborhood.
I have enough to worry about with gang-bangers, MS-13, Aryan nation idiots, Hells angels, and various wannabes trying to increase their firepower by knocking off FFL-SOT's like the Kehoe brothers did to another Arkansas FFL holder (Killed the whole family, incl. 8 y/o girl)for 20 AR-15s). You probably remember the shootout with cops, the big blue suburban in a dash cam shootout where the cop and perp fired 30 rounds and no one got hit? That was a good guy.
Anyways...we need to do something about these damn no-knock raids. They should be so damn rare that only when life and limb are in IMMEDIATE and IMINENT danger should one be conducted (preferbally with the mayor, chief of police, and signing judge at the scene).
<.../.pissed off at WOD/JBT rant off>.
Amen.
He should have known they weren’t real law enforcement when they didn’t shoot the dog.
Agreed, stop this nonesense.
Sounds like his cousin is trying to outfit a new crib.
Lol!
the truth is, this would have gone off the exact same way if these hoodlums shouted "Bloods!"
and the fact that you guys are comparing this to one bad raid in PGC shows you simply have an agenda and are using it to justify your picking and choosing of these events.
i'm not going to get into another drawn out discourse. we all know PGC turned out to be wrong. tell me how many successful raids occur on a daily basis. hundreds. you just do not read about them.
Anyone breaking down my door any time of day is going to get shot. But I’ll serve tea and cookies if they come with a warrant.
you post “They should be so damn rare that only when life and limb are in IMMEDIATE and IMINENT danger should one be conducted (preferbally with the mayor...”
Well, this mayor was present:
http://us.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/07/mayor.warrant/index.html
If someone kicks my door in at three am they are getting all barrels of every weapon I have access to until they TOSS their frigging badges and ID cards DOWN the hall to me. In the mean time, I’ll take out anything that moves.
It will be THEIR fault, not mine.
I’ve never broken the law and if someone comes in screaming FBI, they damned sure better be wearing good armor, because if not, most of what I have will go through walls, people, and cars to name a few things.
I won’t tolerate a home invasion. Period.
I think that you came up with a suggestion that would make no-knock warrants as rare as you would like. Make them valid only if the signing judge is on the scene. Quite aside from the danger of getting in the line of fire, how willing would a judge be to get up at Oh dark hundred to attend the raid?
Help me understand your argument here. We need to ban no-knock raids because the criminals in this case shouted “FBI!” when they kicked in the victim’s door?
I’m shocked this doesn’t happen more often. If I were a thug, I would certainly use this tactic to support myself.
Umm..... hello. Earth calling sheriff. Maybe you SHOULD!
Undocumented non-knockers?
bmflr
What would anyone do if you had a weapon in the house and someone burst into the home forcefully yelling “POLICE!!!” Would you believe it truly was the police?
JoMa