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When and How will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery story break into the MSM? [Vanity]
Kevmo | August 7, 2008 | Kevmo

Posted on 08/07/2008 8:42:20 PM PDT by Kevmo

When and How will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery story break into the MSM? How do we get this out? Will we need to start filing lawsuits in each individual state?

Post your suppositions and activist suggestions here.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifaquiddic; certifigate; colbaquiddic; obama; obamatruthfile; yayanothervanity
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To: null and void; Humble Servant

“McCain’s being born in Panama is completely irrelevant, since both of his parents were U.S. citizens at the time. Any person born to two U.S. citizens, regardless of the place of birth, is a full, total, natural-born U.S. citizen. Period. That’s the law.”

McCain being born in Panama is completely irrelevant? To you, yes.

And that’s the law...Your law?

Thank you for the good laugh!!!!


241 posted on 08/08/2008 4:04:10 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Kevmo; null and void

“And the military would fall solidly behind McCain on this item.”

One little small, picky problem. The military is not the Supreme Court.


242 posted on 08/08/2008 4:11:30 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AnalogReigns; null and void

“The “dual citizenship” question above is also troubling. Has America EVER had a President with dual citizenship? “

Okay...While McCain is not president, he is a dual citizen like it or not.

Do a little homework.


243 posted on 08/08/2008 4:21:34 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Kevmo

I think he’s contemplating a Banana Republic type Military Junta, McCain was born in central America, after all...


244 posted on 08/08/2008 4:22:16 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Hey null and void,

You don’t have to be pompous. I have read plenty, and I flatly disagree with you. I guess that is OK, I mean, if you don’t mind me breathing. I’m certainly fine with the disagreement.

Thank you, Tex Pete


245 posted on 08/08/2008 4:36:48 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: RexFamilia; null and void

“I think that the case with McCain is different because he was born in Canal Zone (not Panama) and it was considered US territory.”

That is just it. This is what this whole argument is about. McCain was not born in the Canal Zone. He was born in Colón, Republic of Panama. At that time, it was two different countries.

Do your homework.


246 posted on 08/08/2008 4:37:26 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: RexFamilia; null and void

“I understand what you are saying and the hospital is clearly seen on the map. but is it the actual place where he was born?”

No. He was born on the moon.


247 posted on 08/08/2008 4:44:20 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Right...they don’t recognize him keeping dual citizenship.


248 posted on 08/08/2008 4:48:29 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Tex Pete

I’m not quite sure you meant to address that to me.


249 posted on 08/08/2008 4:51:43 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Gondring
Right...they don’t recognize him keeping dual citizenship.

That's right. They don't.

250 posted on 08/08/2008 4:56:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: null and void

Let me tell you, null and void. Our country, as I told my cats a couple of days ago, has become a banana republic. Right now, there is no difference between crooked Panamanian politics and crooked U.S. politics. It all stinks.


251 posted on 08/08/2008 5:10:46 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

It’s a difference in degree, not kind.


252 posted on 08/08/2008 5:17:30 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: 9YearLurker

If he takes her as his Veep, his time on this earth is very limited.


253 posted on 08/08/2008 5:54:16 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Two years and one day, to be exact.

21 Jan 10.

Dead or incapacitated, unless he is ruled ineligible by reason of citizenship.


254 posted on 08/08/2008 5:57:47 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: sport

Agreed.


255 posted on 08/08/2008 6:08:41 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: bvw
There's at least one problem with your argument:

The founders did not use the term native-born and so the Wiki is all we are left with to decipher their intent.

I'm certain that had the fouding fathers sufficient forsight with respect to the particular nomenclature, the issue would've been resolved months ago and a whole slew of issues over the last decade or so since then.

Nevertheless, and that notwithstanding, such being not the case, ALL that we have is accepted statute as presented by Wiki.

There is some debate over whether persons who were born US citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under U.S. law should also be considered citizens "by birth," or whether they should all be considered to be "naturalized." There is also some debate over whether there is a meaningful legal distinction between citizens "at birth" and citizens "by birth" since U.S. law makes no such distinction, nor does the Fourteenth Amendment use the term "at birth." Current U.S. statutes define certain individuals born overseas as "citizens at birth."

One side of the argument interprets the Constitution as meaning that a person either is born in the United States or is a naturalized citizen. According to this view, in order to be a "natural born citizen," a person must be born in the United States; otherwise, he is a citizen "by law" and is therefore "naturalized." Current State Department policy reads: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth." However, this does not affect those who are born abroad to U.S. citizens and who otherwise meet the qualifications for citizenship at birth.


256 posted on 08/08/2008 11:49:12 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Kevmo
When and How will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery story break into the MSM?

Answer: As soon as McCain or some other elected Republican politician gets the guts to bring it up on TV, or better yet, on the floor of the House or Senate chamber.

257 posted on 08/08/2008 11:54:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kevmo

Techdude provides very little context in his analysis of Obama’s supposed COLB, making it difficult for those of us who haven’t been following the issue to understand what he is talking about. It took a fair amount of time for me to look into the whole issue closely enough to convince me that techdude is probably right.

Activist suggestion: When techdude writes up his final report, he should provide necessary context so MSM types, not known for digging in when one of their favorites is being questioned, are led down an easy path to the truth. He should also get someone less involved in this issue to read it as a check on its readability.


258 posted on 08/09/2008 3:44:14 AM PDT by solfour
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To: Amadeo

That’s my opinion. Just like the Enquirer broke the news about Edwards, they are the medium to first break the news that Obama is not qualified to be sworn in as President. Once all the evidence comes out, the MSM cannot ignore it.


259 posted on 08/09/2008 1:19:29 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Kevmo

Go back to June 20th, and follow my posts from that point forward.


260 posted on 08/09/2008 3:19:36 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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