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Obama Campaign Site: "Throw the Jews in the oven"
Obama for America ^ | 8/7/08 | Winged Hussar

Posted on 08/07/2008 10:21:43 AM PDT by Winged Hussar

The Obama campaign exercises editorial control over this site. The staff admittedly threw Al Jefferson's blog under the bus, but probably only because Aaron Klein quoted this in World Net Daily (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71574).

the only way to free america By Al from Tucson, AZ - Aug 4th, 2008 at 1:53 pm EDT Comments | Mail to a Friend | Report Objectionable Content

is to shed ourselves from the racist zionists in america. they control everything. but they won't keep us down any longer. throw the jews in the oven this november. its the only way we can free america and make sure barack obama is elected!

This is far from the only entry at my.barackobama.com that talks about Jews with divided loyalties, the Jewish lobby, the Israel lobby (a term sanctioned by the official campaign staff), Jewish control of various things, and also a reference to Hillary Clinton's African-American supporters as "house negroes" ("negroes" is not exactly the word they used).


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; antizionism; demokkkrats; demonazis; liberalfascists; mybarackobamacom; mybo; nobama; obama; obamination; wright
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1 posted on 08/07/2008 10:21:44 AM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar

Figures. Demonazis. Between the murderous cries of his base and the ravings of his “pastor”, please no one tell me that it doesn’t represent Hussein Obama. He is evil.


2 posted on 08/07/2008 10:24:48 AM PDT by SolidWood (McCantor 2008. Stop Obamarx!)
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To: Winged Hussar

Part of the Left wing fringe includes Paly/terrorist supporters who are anti-Israel, anti-semitic and anti-Zionist. It goes with the territory of the group of nutjobs who support a socialst/communist empty suit.

No real surprise here.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 10:26:22 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Winged Hussar

Looks to me like a response post on the Obama blog, not an official statement. Just some more hatemongering from the Libs who preach tolerance.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 10:26:39 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: Winged Hussar

oh this will only skyrocket if Cantor is picked for VP


5 posted on 08/07/2008 10:33:02 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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To: Winged Hussar
Because We American Jews are Stupid?
6 posted on 08/07/2008 10:36:31 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Winged Hussar
"from the racist zionists in america"

Gimme a break.

7 posted on 08/07/2008 10:36:49 AM PDT by maclay (America First - The rest of the world comes second)
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To: SolidWood
Demo-nazis?

how about;

Obamanuts

8 posted on 08/07/2008 10:40:38 AM PDT by Nachum (Obama: creepy you can count on)
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To: Nachum
Obamanuts

Sounds like something Jesse Jackson wants.

9 posted on 08/07/2008 10:43:15 AM PDT by SolidWood (McCantor 2008. Stop Obamarx!)
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To: Winged Hussar
People who don't like the Jews wail about the undue influence they wield in this nation. They rail on the idea that Israel even exists. They even support folks who want to destroy Israel. They seldom go about suggesting they be thrown in ovens. No, they try to keep that on the QT, even if it is precisely what they'd like to do.

This looks like the post of someone who doesn't like Obama, and wanted to see how long his team would leave the post up.

The fact that his team may have, and in this instance probably did, leave the post up too long is problematic in and of itself. I am not convinced this is the post of someone who supports Obama or actually wants Jews thrown in ovens.

There's always an outside possibility I'm wrong. That's just my take on it.

Are we really convinced that Obama wants to destroy Israel? Are we convinced he wants to see Jews thrown in ovens?

I am troubled by his support for a Palestinian state. I don't support that in any way shape or form, until the Palestinians have proven they will cooperate with Israel like a reasoned neighbor, and live in peace beside it.

I consider this to be an anti-Israeli stance. That being said, Israel's leadership seems to be just about as ignorant as Obama on the prospect for peace agreements between Israel and the Palestinians though. Olmert is a fool IMO.

My view is that Obama doesn't see a Palestinian nation as an anti-Israeli move. He's one of these pie in the sky airheads who thinks a cumbaya moment will usher in a thousand years of peace. He has good company in our nation with that notion. Some of our most trusted leaders share that view.

10 posted on 08/07/2008 10:52:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: Winged Hussar

Any issues I had with the Jews/Israelis went away on 911 when I saw the thousands of PaliRats dancing in the streets. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


11 posted on 08/07/2008 10:53:26 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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Re: “ This looks like the post of someone who doesn’t like Obama, and wanted to see how long his team would leave the post up.

The fact that his team may have, and in this instance probably did, leave the post up too long is problematic in and of itself. I am not convinced this is the post of someone who supports Obama or actually wants Jews thrown in ovens.”

This one admittedly went under the bus more quickly than the others I have seen, but it is quite likely that Obama’s staff saw it at WorldNetDaily. Other material about the “Jewish Lobby” remained online for more than half a year.

If this were the only example of hate speech, or even one of but a few, I would be inclined to agree that these are just trolls and agents provacateur. The problem is that there are dozens or even more of these at my.barackobama.com.


12 posted on 08/07/2008 10:56:19 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Winged Hussar

Just for argument’s sake, would you honestly think a man who wanted to be President would approve of leaving this stuff up for the public to view? It might appeal to some people, but it would alienate far more.

If you told me his organization was so poorly run that there wasn’t an adequate enough crew to police this stuff, I’d agree. In fact I think that would be a very negative thing to have aired in public, the fact that his organization was so inept.

As I said, you folks may be on to something that sails right over my head, but I don’t buy into the idea he wants to see Jews rounded up and destroyed.

That being said, you couldn’t have caught me sitting in that pew listening to Wright for decades.


13 posted on 08/07/2008 11:07:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: fredhead
" Looks to me like a response post on the Obama blog, not an official statement. Just some more hate mongering from the Libs who preach tolerance. "

Remember, by using the Liberals standard, it's not the facts that matter, but the seriousness of the charge that counts.
But, I know, we are above that and take the high road.
14 posted on 08/07/2008 11:09:17 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Winged Hussar; DoughtyOne
I would be inclined to agree that these are just trolls and agents provacateur. The problem is that there are dozens or even more of these at my.barackobama.com.

There are plenty of trolls and agents provocateurs in the world. Personally, I'm getting tired of seeing their stupid posts copied over to FR. For all I know, you posted this garbage there yourself, just so you could re-post it on FR and claim it tells us something about Obama. Assuming you didn't, you're certainly doing exactly what the authors of the garbage want people to do with it.

15 posted on 08/07/2008 11:14:37 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Well, there is a very good chance that you are absolutely 100% on target with your conclusion. And as you state, assuming he didn’t, you’ve expressed what my thoughts on it are.

McCain being unsellable, we are going over the line to destroy Obama. None of us are going to vote for the man. Zero, zip, nada... If I’ve seen more than five people here over the last six months who have said they may vote for him, I’d be surprised. When I have seen it, I have encouraged them not to.

To me it seems like we are verging on becoming the reverse of DailyKOS, DU, and Moveon.org. Frankly... no thanks. Counter them? Hell yes. Adopt their tactics? Hell no.


16 posted on 08/07/2008 11:32:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Wow, GS! Good post!


17 posted on 08/07/2008 11:38:31 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Re: “For all I know, you posted this garbage there yourself, just so you could re-post it on FR and claim it tells us something about Obama. Assuming you didn’t, you’re certainly doing exactly what the authors of the garbage want people to do with it.”

I did not post this material at MyBO but, assuming I did (and this is the kind of accusation that could have come from Obama’s camp or MoveOn.org, which used the same excuse in 2006), Obama’s moderators could have removed it on the spot. They certainly proved themselves capable of removing quotes from “Dreams From My Father” and Michelle Obama’s thesis—with specific page numbers as opposed to the urban legends—within 36 hours, and disabling the account from which it was posted. On the other hand, stuff about “Zionist Thought Police” was left online for months. This should tell you where MyBO’s moderators’ priorities lie.

FR’s moderators were quite capable of locking threads, deleting comments, and threatening to hand out suspensions when people made inappropriate remarks about Ted Kennedy’s illness, and they did so on an almost real time basis. That is because FR is NOT MoveOn.org, Kos, or My.BarackObama.com. As far as I know, FR’s moderators don’t even get paid. Obama has paid staff members to keep agents provacateur—if that is what they really are—off his site.

Your argument could easily be turned around. How do we know that Obama’s staff members didn’t post some of this stuff—not the anti-Semitic hate speech, which reflects badly on his campaign, but the rumors about McCain having a neurodegenerative disease—to encourage its widespread circulation? Obama could deny that he approved it while blaming it on trolls, agents provacateur, and so on while reaping its benefits.


18 posted on 08/07/2008 3:45:57 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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Re: “To me it seems like we are verging on becoming the reverse of DailyKOS, DU, and Moveon.org. Frankly... no thanks. Counter them? Hell yes. Adopt their tactics? Hell no.”

FR does not sponsor or sanction hate speech against racial, religious, or ethnic groups, nor does it tolerate inappropriate remarks about serious illnesses—all of which Kos, MyBO, and/or MoveOn.org have. Bill O’Reilly reports that the Daily Kos tolerated a celebration of Tony Snow’s death at its Web site. MyBO included a post to the effect that Alzheimer’s Disease is “funny” while falsely attributing this illness to a political opponent.


19 posted on 08/07/2008 3:52:28 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Winged Hussar
As far as you have gone, I agree with you. I do think our folks are going over the top at times here. And that does bother me. I don't go over to those sites because of the ridiculous things they say about us. That's the part I don't want to emulate.
20 posted on 08/07/2008 4:01:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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