Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
Oh yeah, and if he did accept an Indonesian citizenship, no law broken. But it would make him ineligible to be POTUS.
Until Obama produces an authentic COLB, and explains why he's produced a 'forgery', there isn't any real evidence he was born IN Hawaii either..............
I have yet to see his authentic birth certificate, have you?
I think you are right.
The local papers often publish birth announcements for out-of-area births.
Congressman Billybob
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Whether religion is involved or not is in large measure beside the point. If this be true, Obama and his supporters are engaging in the age old Arabic strategies of taqiyya and kitman, and, let it not be forgotten, that Barack Obama, on his father's side, is mostly Arabic.
Someone should also question if he is a citizen of Indonesia. I do not know how this could be done or proven. Especially since the officials over there would be benefitted by a citizen of their own being POTUS.
Excuse me, I gues you have trouble reading, this is a new development, the allegations, as you call them. are no longer allegations but proven fact. Two separate people, working independently, have proven this is a fake certificate. They both came up with the exact same information. Whether or not he was born in Hawaii is not the peoples burden of proof but is on Obamaosama. The question is why did he fake the birth certificate? The web site in question has the proof, pictures of the methods used to bring out the underlying print ,the name, date of birth etc. of the real person whose certificate was used to fake Obamaosama's certificate. You can keep lying to yourself if you want, but the proof is undisputable, I have seen it and anyone who does see it will no it(the original KOS COLB) is a fake document.
John McCain was put on the spot,in answer to this fake COLB when it first came out in order to take the spot light off of Obamaosama, McCain had to prove his American citizenship, which wasn't hard to do at all, and Obama must prove his.
Even if he was born in Hawaii,which he has yet to prove, this fake document says that something is terribly wrong with his birth records, something he doesn't want others to know. He lied to election officials therefore he is no longer eligible to run for President.
He could ascend upward into heaven couldn't he?
No, no link. But I do have a big fat foot in my mouth.
I realized after I posted it was Isreal Insider. I was just happy your post and finger went to flying.
Thorry. (Foot now removed)
So is he claiming dual citizenship? Like I said, I think he is dangerous for the country, more for what he has experience in than what he lacks in experience.
This whole scenario is beginning to smell like a Clinton-constructed scheme to make America reach out for Hil. Even she is more acceptable that this wacko. ‘Better the snake you know...’
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama “birth certificate” belongs to the Presidential candidate’s younger half-sister, Maya......
Obama is a Citizen of the World “he don’t need no stinking US COLB,gringo”. /sarc
Actually, why would anyone have Maya’s birth certificate unless it was an intentionally done by Obama personally to hide something? This is hot.
I see nothing wrong with him being asked to produce a real COLB because all people have to show some proof of meeting the job requirements. Oh, I forgot he is THE ONE.
The downside is Hillary. UHHHg!
Still, you screw around long enough at the pixel level you might also discover that he’s actually the long lost half brother of George Corley Wallace.
Maya would not have had a Hawaii COLB to use for a forgery since she was born in Indonesia.
That needs to be cleared up to go any further, imo.
You’d need a forged Maya Hawaii COLB in the first place wouldn’t you?
MAYA? How many freaking kids are there in this family? Oy.
Under the laws of D.C. and fifty states, a nominee for President must sign an official designation of his/her Presidential Electors. Only at that point can anyone in any of those 51 jurisdictions file suit claiming that Obama is not qualified under the US Constitution to be President, and therefore unqualified to sign that designation.
The cases could be in state or federal court, though I would expect federal would be preferred. And there is zero doubt that with up to 51 different cases, there would be two that disagreed. Therefore, the issue would reach the Supreme Court on an accelerated basis to make the mega-decision, either yes he is qualified, or no he is not qualified.
Congressman Billybob
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It was. It was posted by his grandparents.
However, if his original birth certificate was destroyed and reissued because of his adoption by his Indonesian stepfather, that could change his eligibility due to dual citizenship in Indonesia.
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