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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.

The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)

According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.

The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.

The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.

Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.

Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; fake; forgery; fraud; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile; qfp; soetero; tangledweb; unqualified; whokilleddoanldyoung
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To: Spunky

By four different women, and he only saw baby BO once after he deserted bama’s mama.


401 posted on 08/05/2008 5:29:43 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: freema

Yeah, but they are milking that picture for all it’s worth.


402 posted on 08/05/2008 5:45:25 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: freema
By four different women, and he only saw baby BO once after he deserted bama’s mama.

Well Freema that could all be a lie,too.At this point I think he is a clone...;))

403 posted on 08/05/2008 5:47:36 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: norcal joe
But I thought that I read somewhere a few weeks ago that Obama’s birth announcement in a local Hawaiian paper published at the time of Obama’s birth

I saw that on a thread within the last 2 days. But that could be faked, too :-). Oh this age of technology, so many ways to deceive . . . and be caught.

Usually I tend to accept most things at face value, make that used to. Now I question things, and so much of it don't have access to bona fide source documents. Some of those could even fool me. And the one poster is right. If his mother was an American citizen, what difference does it really make? I'm sure we're going to get a DNA test. Not. Even if we did, I tend to question the validity of those; you still have to take the lab's or experts' word for it and get lost in minutiae

Even DNA tests to a lay person are a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Then when the experts start analyzing it, which one is to be believed?

I wonder how much deception was perpetrated in the past before say the end of the 1800's. In those days you had to take somebody's word for almost everything. Sigh. Even Osama's voice print.

404 posted on 08/05/2008 5:58:14 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: BARLF

405 posted on 08/05/2008 7:18:41 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: mnehrling

Challenges would have to be filed in every state. A Federal challenge wold take years to reach conclusion as it would in states wit Democrat establishments. Chances are it would only succee in states that would otherwise go against him in the election, anyway.


406 posted on 08/05/2008 7:18:42 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The campaign must come under government scrutiny, it is a fraud against the people. The Obama campaign must know it is not real, they must also know that some of us know.

I think the twist will be trying to put eggs on our faces. I know the press is inept, corrupt and a bunch of leftists but not one question from the mainstream. It reminds me of Lewinsky’s hiding the cigar act. It took 3 months to go from Drudge to mainstream.


407 posted on 08/05/2008 7:32:27 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we live apart.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Now that’s funny.


408 posted on 08/05/2008 7:36:35 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: pissant

Larry Sinclair on http://www.plainsradio.com/ now.


409 posted on 08/05/2008 7:41:23 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Catching it now.


410 posted on 08/05/2008 8:26:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Yardstick
Then, yesterday, on a whim I looked at the Texas Darlin blog and saw TechDude's latest post -- and I have to say, I think there might be something to this.

I usually can't stand to be wrong, but I'll happily eat my words if something does come out of all this. But I'm a skeptic at heart, and the evidence so far seems mighty underwhelming.

411 posted on 08/05/2008 8:50:30 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


412 posted on 08/05/2008 9:12:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Citizen Blade

The details don’t make any difference - thats just geek food. Fact is BO hasn’t come clean on the forged stuff on HIS website. A lie is being told. How many more are there? His lack of depth started at birth and continues today. But it will become important to hang this on the dem party as illustrative of their incompetence.


413 posted on 08/05/2008 9:17:45 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: bossmechanic

I really hope this makes it to the MSM. Obamination needs to explain why he has a forged birth certificate on his site.


414 posted on 08/05/2008 9:25:20 PM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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To: SlowBoat407

hehehe


415 posted on 08/05/2008 11:02:55 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: BubbaBasher
"There’d really be no other way FOR him to exit, would there?

He could ascend upward into heaven couldn't he?

.....or descend into the well with the 12th inman.

416 posted on 08/05/2008 11:12:19 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported and the drilling starts.)
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To: pissant

What time was she born? I wonder.

And I wonder who crafted this whole scavenger hunt. It’s quite amusing.


417 posted on 08/05/2008 11:15:57 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: HundredDollars
FWIW, your tinfoil hat is on the same setting mine has been since Hillary announced she was suspending her campaign. She never "quit", never "conceded", has never officially recognized an Obama nomination.

If the COLB isn't enough, and the "whitey" remarks don't do the trick, I am sure there is plenty else in the wings, not to mention the issues.

418 posted on 08/06/2008 12:43:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: bethtopaz; SlowBoat407
Don’t you all understand? He’s humbly trying to conceal his virgin birth!

Does that mean God really is black?

419 posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:32 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

>>>If he was a citizen of Indonesia they recognize dual citizenship

As per Jerome Corsi’s book, Obama Nation, Indonesia did not recognized dual citizenship.

USA did, Indonesia did not.


420 posted on 08/06/2008 3:42:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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