Colón, PANAMA, not Colón Canal Zone. PANAMA
Colón isn't part of the Canal Zone.
It is a separate district and provence, a district and provence of the country of Panama.
Much like West Berlin never belonged to East Germany.
Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
Spit ma beer! Thanks.
Only Hillary is helped by this.
Just sayin’
If the RNC wants some non-descript citizens to stand up (and $$front) a challenge...there’s a whole forum full right here (including me in Illinois-istan).
As to Constitutional eligibility of someone born of US parents in a foreign land?
That is the subject of a rather lively debate.
It is such an unresolved issue that in the last election cycle McCaskill submitted a bill to establish the eligibility to hold the office of the president to anyone born to a U.S. citizen who is serving overseas as an active or reserve member of the U.S. armed forces.
Why? Because senator McCain’s father was a Navy officer serving in the Canal Zone when McCain was born in Panama (NOT IN THE CANAL ZONE). That makes him technically ineligible in many minds.
The laws was never passed. Whether McCain is eligible is still an open question.
If it is not such an issue McCaskill wouldn’t have gone through the unsuccessful effort to try to clarify the non-issue.
It was an issue then. It is an issue now. Should McCain be elected the “progressives” will insure it remains an on-going issue. It will be their “modern” version of “selected, not elected”, and “He’s not MY president!”
McCaskill wasn’t able to get her bill passed. The most McCain has saying that congress recognizes his eligibility is a “sense of the senate”.
As if the senate had a lick of sense...
McCain wasn’t born on a military base.
He wasn’t even born in The Canal Zone.
He was born in Colón, Panama.
Mistaken for TWO megaton. Corrected. Thanks
I would suggest that if Obama gets knocked off the ballot in a single, large electoral state — say California — then he can’t be elected. If he were to be challenged before the convention his entire nomination would be in doubt.
So could Bill’s little comment about being eligible according to the constitution mean they are questioning McCain, not Obama?
Nothing will beat my 42 pings in the middle of the other night!!!
I think I was incorrect and they are sealed. Some states destroy, but apparently Hawaii seals them.
Are you only counting his mother’s children? Or does his father’s 8 not count?
Thank you for that information. I was not aware of the details of that.
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But you have a lightspeed PC !
I think I have been over this before, but you stating that is not going to change something that has been placed as a resolution with Senate. The resolution states he was born on a military base. I have looked at maps and I am still not sure where the base was he was born. But I doubt his birt certificate would state “Military base”, but the city rather.
[But you have a lightspeed PC !]
Should, but graphics and music are bogging me down. You were posting as fast as me last night!!
Colón, PANAMA, not Colón Canal Zone. PANAMA
Colón isn't part of the Canal Zone.
It is a separate district and provence, a district and provence of the country of Panama.
Much like West Berlin never belonged to East Germany.
The clinton’s are waiting until the week before to leak and discredit Obama. So the confusion will allow the Superdelegates to call for a floor vote. The rest will be history. Now is that a conspiracy therory?
This was my thought also. Hillary is counting on us to be the ones to take out Barry at the final hour before the conventionfor her, leaving her hands clean. Then she can 'reluctantly' step in and take the nomination forward, with Obama ineligible to even be chosen as VP. She's counting on the blacks to support her against the evil republicans who took out their beloved Obamesiah, while she had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it.
Thanks for the enlightenment. I had followed a FR link to NoQuarter not realizing it was being cross-posted. If I had known that was Larry Johnson’s site my tin foil hat probably would have short-circuited.
What’s the story with TechDude? Is he a known entity. Does he have a horse in the race?
Hmmm, good question. He may have been referring to McCain.
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