Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original

Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

[pissant]

Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.

The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)

According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.

The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.

The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.

Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.

Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.

[Mila]

LOL! ;)

[DemonDeac]

I hate the guy as much as anyone but I don’t buy this any more than I buy the black helicopter nonsense. It would be impossible to hide something this basic in an election that is under so much scrutiny and is so highly contested. The Clintons have as good an opposition research team as any in the business and they missed it. No Republican opposition researchers haven’t shown it either. Nor have legit media outlets. You know some reporter would love to be the one to prove this.

[Citizen Blade]

I wouldn't be at all suprised to learn he has been lying about his place of birth for years. Would it really surprise you?

No, you're right- nothing would surprise me about Obama.

Jesse Jackson's line about Bill Clinton seems fitting: "There is nothing this man won't do. He is immune to shame. Move past all the nice posturing and get really down in there in him, you find absolutely nothing ... nothing but an appetite."

Different appetites- not so much sex and the desire for approval, but something scarier- the appetite for power.

[donna]

That’s the quote I saw, too!

“You can argue that nobody is ready to be president,” Mr Clinton told ABC News. “You can argue that even if you’ve been vice-president for eight years, that no one can be fully ready for the pressures of the office.”

Asked the question again, he responded: “I never said he wasn’t qualified. The constitution sets qualification for the president. And then the people decide who they think would be the better president. I think we have two choices. I think he should win and I think he will win.”

[pissant]

That’s fine. Believe whatever you want. For example, I believe FR has been infiltrated by a bunch of Obama supporting trolls lately. Imagine that.

[Kevmo]

Thanks for your hard work, pissant & polarik.

This article has been posted over at the Intrade forum.
https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/75/2279.page

In the last few days, Obama’s price has dropped from 63 down to 58, heading lower. I think soon we will see signs of panic in his camp.

[bvw]

Actually a group of Pajama Warriors have been tracking out Obama's birth legend and citizenships and religions and other basic loyalty-related issues for months. Before the forged CoLB was released, there were Dr. Corsi and expatguy looking into it, with the release of the forgery Polarik steadfastly and persistently investigated it and found the text had been modified. Since the start of July a whole bunch of freepers have been on the case -- see The Long Thread.

Techdude first launched his investigation on AtlasShrugs, a conservative site run by Pam Geller.

The media dynamics of the coverage of this story are different for reasons I don't see that anyone has been able to explain in a way that is serious.

[autumnraine]

Really?

So you have inside information on this?

Please get started!! If the sources on the articles I read was wrong, please let me know!

[monday]

“Maybe I’m missing something here, but even if it turns out Obama was born in a foreign country, would it not be irrelevent as his mother was an American citizen and hence, so would he ?”

The requirements to be president are more stringent than just being a citizen. Besides being a certain minimum age, one is also required to be a “natural born citizen”. My understanding was that one had to be born within the borders of the US to US citizens, i.e. both parents also had to be US citizens at the time of your birth.

I was born outside the US and although both my parents were and always have been US citizens, my understanding was that I was unqualified to be president. Apparently this is incorrect as McCain is qualified, so I don't really know what constitutes classification as “natural born citizen”.

All I know is that it is a stricter qualification than simple “citizenship”. Naturalized citizens, for instance, i,e. those who become citizens of the US after birth, are never eligible to serve as president. This provision was made to ensure that a sitting president would never have any allegiance to a country other than the US. In that context it makes sense.

[bvw]

“black helicopters” — Geesh man get with the times! That term is so-old-fashioned. It’s so 90’s!

[autumnraine]

That is disgusting and interesting.

And scary.

Thanks for that information.

[autumnraine]

Was it on the no fly list since it was under marshall law? For non-government employees, reps I mean.

[savedbygrace]

Here’s one view:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

[Citizen Blade]

The requirements to be president are more stringent than just being a citizen. Besides being a certain minimum age, one is also required to be a “natural born citizen”. My understanding was that one had to be born within the borders of the US to US citizens, i.e. both parents also had to be US citizens at the time of your birth.

Not quite. Anyone born in the US, regardless of their parents' citizenship qualifies. Anyone born to 2 American citizens abroad qualifies. The only tough area is someone born abroad to only 1 American citizen, at least in the past.

Apparently this is incorrect as McCain is qualified, so I don't really know what constitutes classification as “natural born citizen”.

I understand it to mean anyone who is a citizen at birth, rather than through naturalization.

[savedbygrace]

Here’s another:

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/07/meaning-of-natural-born-citizen-and.html

[the anti-liberal]

placemark

[Sgt_Schultze]

This is not good timing. Obama is only the nominee because of his race - any other similarly shallow freshman senator of scant preparedness (if he were white or female) would have been dismissed from contention along with the nutbag Kusinich. If his hOliness is booted off the ballot we will surely get HILLARY! and an energized group of angry dems.

It would have been better for this to have happened sometime in mid October.

[Canedawg]

It may (MAY) turn out that where he was born is a non-issue in terms of satisfying the constitutional requirements.

However, if it is demonstrated that he has made fraudulent statements about the circumstances of his birth and his COLB, that will prove to be very damaging to any credibility he may have with the marginals who have been supporting him.

[FARS]

SIDEBAR - Damage details of 20 megaton nuclear device

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http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/08/damage-of-smallish-nuclear-bomb.html

[autumnraine]

Being born on a military base is what makes McCain eligible as I think military bases are considered US territory, even within another’s borders. I would think being born in an embassy, while gross, would be a qualification as well. No legal expert I am though.