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Posted on 08/05/2008 4:41:40 AM PDT by Neville72
Forensics specialist Techdude, who has been chipping away at the Obama Birth Certificate mystery for some time, has confirmed that the name on the original Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) which was used to forge the document presented by Barack Obama as his valid Birth Certificate IS:
Maya Kassandra Soetoro.
His sister.
The document presented by Obama as the “truth about his birth certificate” can be seen on his official campaign web page, “FightTheSmears,” here.
In an exclusive TexasDarlin report on Sunday, Techdude revealed that he had discovered the true identity of the person on the original COLB, but that he was not ready to disclose that person’s name.
He gave readers step-by-step instructions for conducting the analysis at home. In a follow-up post, I published a comment by Techdude in which he explained why he was waiting to name the person, and he challenged readers to solve the mystery first, offering a free trip to Las Vegas for the first person who posted the correct answer.
Several hours later, KG, a reader on the TexasDarlin blog, posted her/his discovery in the Comments section of this post, and detailed the technical process she/he followed to get there.
KG revealed the original name on the COLB:
Maya Kassandra Soetoro.
Techdude has reviewed KG’s analysis, and verified the result.
KG does not have the technical tools to immediately produce a report for publication, and is not sure he/she wants to be published. Nevertheless, you can read KG’s process yourself in the Comment thread.
In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary’s debt, and Techdude has agreed.)
Now, Senator Obama faces a serious and urgent inquiry from Americans:
Why was his sister Maya’s birth certificate used to make his own?
I have a preliminary theory, and it goes something like this:
The Hawaii COLB form was revised in 2001. Prior to that, it included much more birth information, such as name of the hospital, signatures and professions of parents, etc.
If Obama needed to show his birth certificate to the public during the election, he wanted to present the current short version, but the one he had in a shoebox somewhere was an older version.
When it became clear in 2007 that he might need to show it, Maya’s COLB was ordered. Obama did not order his own because he didn’t want a chatty Hawaii Govt. employee to notice that the child’s name on his COLB is Barry Soetoro, and the father’s name, Lolo Soetoro. He did not want his legal name and Indonesian identity to be known.
If it got to the point that the campaign needed to show a birth certificate, as a last resort they would make a few digital adjustments to Maya’s in order to transform it into Barack Hussein Obama’s COLB, and post it on line. They trusted, in this event, that Govt. employees or officials would not bother to check it against his real name, or would just keep quiet if they did notice. Obama probably never expected the electorate to question its authenticity, at least not to this degree.
That’s my theory, anyway.
There are, of course, two other important questions related to this investigation:
1. Is Maya aware that her COLB was used to fabricate Obama’s?
AND
2. Why does Maya have a Hawaiian birth certificate in the first place, as she was born in Indonesia?
Judah Benjamin, our resident historian and researcher, will be discussing these questions in the coming days.
Stay tuned.
Maybe now the MSM will WAKE UP to this story.
Yes.
US Code: (as of Jan 3, 2007)
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401Prev | Next § 1401.
Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
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Obama has lied about his background. He says he was "never a Muslim". A lie. Obama put out that 'yup, this birth certificate is his birth certificate'. Another lie, it's his sister's COLB (Certificate of Live Birth).
Let's say Obama is elected and he starts issuing Executive Orders, signing and vetoing bills. Someone harmed by these actions decides to do a little research, finds out the Obama is not eligible to be President and sues to vacate all of Obama's actions.
Eligibility to be President is in the Constitution. For the sake of our constitutional order, Obama needs to clear up any confusion on this issue, which then becomes a non-issue; just like with McCain. Obama owes it to Americans to clear this up, which ought to be as simple and supply his real, original birth certificate.
Why doesn't he?
That is one scary movie!
Please note that the US code you are quoting is in effect now, but the code that matters is the code from the time of Obama’s birth. My understanding is that up until 1986, children whose birth matched his (alleged) situation would NOT have been considered citizens. Specifically, I think that item (g) in the code you quote was once worded differently and would have excluded a child born to a 19-year-old American citizen, if the child were born in a foreign country.
Yes, he wouldn’t have that handy “african” name to run on would he?
Ever see the 60’s movie “Blow Up†Its about the nature of reality and things examined to closely. This COLB issue has become another “Whitey Tape”
I think it’s a matter of dual citizenship.
I still want to know how he got into Pakistan in 1981 when no Americans or non-muslims were allowed. At all.
And he conveniently stopped by Indonesia on the way over. And he was 20, right in between the 18-21 to claim his Indonesian citizenship with “Muslim” listed as religion as his adoptive father. Just what was needed to get into Pakistan.
And why go to Pakistan in the first place? What does a college student “working through college” as he says, have to spend his money on a sight seeing tour in Pakistan?
Texasdarlin the author of this news bullentin is a Hillary supporter
Come on. The best thing we can do is ignore this. The chosen one may win 10 states tops.
Do we really want to face Hillary as the nominee? And if this story is true, don’t you think the Clintons will break it a week before the convention or better yet, a week or two before the election?
The Clinton machine said there was a suprise. Going public with this 2-3 weeks before the election practically guarantees that Hillary is shielded from any scrutiny while her convention speech is hailed as an act of courageousness.
Watch... Hillary will be sitting in the Whitehouse in 2009.
They are trying. Most of the anti-Obama stuff is Hillary supporters.
Just this morning a Hillary supporter accused Google of allowing Obama supporters of shutting down her blog.
They are trying. Most of the anti-Obama stuff is Hillary supporters.
Just this morning a Hillary supporter accused Google of allowing Obama supporters of shutting down her blog.
They tried to downplay and smear the Swiftboat Vets too, but it held up to the REAL Vets out there.
I saw that, and immediatly thought Clinton was up to something. It was parsed. It was an awkward statement. Why not just say, "He had a right to run." We all know Bubba parses his words carefully.
A great follow-up question by the reporter would have been: "And, does Obama qualify under the Constitution?"
OH! They know. That is a beautiful statement!! They know!
Beautiful as in, I need to go get some popcorn.
No, by constitution, his mother would have had to live here for 5 years over the age of 16. She was 18 when she had him. Plus, if she were married to a Kenyan, as Obama claims, he would be dual UK citizen. THEN, he was adopted by an Indonesian, that would make him dual citizen of Indonesia.
A president cannot have held, or hold dual citizenship with another country.
But by hanging on to his father’s name and identity, and the all the “Father” books that have nothing to do with the man who raised him, but only with the man who abandoned him at the age of TWO years old. He is wiping out his citizenship and/or religion.
You are confusing “Citizen” with “Natural Born”. Look up the difference.
I think it’s too late for Hillary (presuming McCain lives through election day). I think she would have been tough to beat as the regular nominee, but as a last-minute substitution on a technicality? No, McCain is too acceptable to too many for that. I just wouldn’t want to see McCain borrowing any airplanes from Hill’s campaign!
Plus, there is the “natural born” issue.
I think people are confusing the citizen with natural born citizen.
There is nothing illegal about Obama holding dual citizenships or even just being a citizen. But there are specific requirements to become POTUS.
Interesting post but that wasn’t the law and didn’t apply before 1986 and certainly wasn’t in 1961 at the time of Soetoro/Obama/Dunham’s birth.
This was the requirement to satisfy prior to 1986 and applied to all born before that date.
“U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for 10 years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.’”
Obama/Soetoro/Dunham’s mother was 18 years old at the time of his birth. she would have had to be 21 to have been able to confer natural-born citizenship to him in the event his father was a foreigner
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