Posted on 07/31/2008 6:39:31 AM PDT by tobyhill
Sen. Barack Obama told a meeting in Chicago the U.S. should review how it can make amends for "offenses" committed during its history.
And one author is speculating that might even include reparations for al-Qaida soldiers, since, after all, they've been held in violation of their "rights."
Obama's comments came in a meeting with members of UNITY '08, an event for journalists who claim membership in various minorities.
Obama, according to the report in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, stopped just short of endorsing an official U.S. apology to various groups. He said instead the nation should acknowledge treating certain groups poorly.
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Native American brothers and sisters have all ready figured out there own reperations program.
They call them Casinos.
I’ve had enough of leftist whackos telling us what to do.
I realise that I tend to use logic and see humans as other humans, but I guess that’s where I ultimately fail.
“If this comes to fruition, does Barack get only half of the reparations due to him?”
Barack Hussein Obama doesn’t have any African-American ancestors. He does, apparently, have ancestors who were slaveholders. So logic dictates that he pay up.
“He said instead the nation should acknowledge treating certain groups poorly.”
Which ones? Which groups? Obama suffers from the liberal delusion that there’s an unlimited pool of money out there that can be used to right all wrongs - or even all discomforts.
“Reparations for Conservatives.”
Oh, I’ve got enough money. I just prefer that it not be taken away from me. You are correct to the extent that responsible people are treated poorly in America. They’re expected to solve their problems and everyone else’s.
Nailed it. Perfect.
It’s too bad Americans know nothing of history. The Democratic Party actively supported slavery, secession, segregation, and Jim Crow laws. Democrats opposed anti-lynching and civil rights laws. The Democrat’s call to atone for our sins should be treated with a big laugh.
That apology resolution was the Gulf of Tonkin resolution for reparations. It put the entire House on record as agreeing that the reason blacks lag behind, live in poverty, turn to crime, drop out of school, suffer from broken families, etc. is due to the “legacy of slavery & Jim Crow”. It's now the official policy of our government, and of America itself, that this is the case. It thus changed the entire political equation by fully justifying reparations. The Dems knew the GOP lacked the will to fight such a resolution, and will proceed accordingly. They'll be cautious, to be sure, but they will now proceed slowly toward reparations, knowing that GOP opposition will slowly fade amidst unrelenting allegations of “racism”.
Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans - as did a slave trade that exported millions of sub-Saharan Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf.[1] However, slavery and bondage are still African realities. Hundreds of thousands of Africans still suffer in silence in slave-like situations of forced labour and commercial sexual exploitation from which they cannot free themselves.
Modern-day enslavers also exploit lack of political will at the highest levels of some African governments to effectively tackle trafficking and its root causes. Weak interagency co-ordination and low funding levels for ministries tasked with prosecuting traffickers, preventing trafficking and protecting victims also enable traffickers to continue their operations. The transnational criminal nature of trafficking also overwhelms many countries’ law enforcement agencies, which are not equipped to fight organised criminal gangs that operate across national boundaries with impunity.
Slavery by African country
Chad
IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Networks) of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports children being sold to Arab herdsmen in Chad. As part of a new identity imposed on them the herdsman "...change their name, forbid them to speak in their native dialect, ban them from conversing with people from their own ethnic group and make them adopt Islam as their religion."[2]
Mali
The Malian government denies that slavery exists, however, the slavery in Timbuktu is obvious. Slavery still continues with some Tuaregs holding Bella people.[3]
Mauritania
A system exists now by which Arab Muslims -- the bidanes -- own black slaves, the haratines.[4] An estimated 90,000 black Mauritanians remain essentially enslaved to Arab/Berber owners.[5] The ruling bidanes (the name means literally white-skinned people) are descendants of the Sanhaja Berbers and Beni Hassan Arab tribes who emigrated to northwest Africa and present-day Western Sahara and Mauritania during the Middle Ages.[6] According to some estimates, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, or 20% of the population, are still enslaved, many of them used as bonded labour.[7] Slavery in Mauritania was finally criminalized in August 2007.[8] Malouma Messoud, a former Muslim slave has explained her enslavement to a religious leader:
"We didn't learn this history in school; we simply grew up within this social hierarchy and lived it. Slaves believe that if they do not obey their masters, they will not go to paradise. They are raised in a social and religious system that everyday reinforces this idea.[9]"
In Mauritania, despite slave ownership having been banned by law in 1981, hereditary slavery continues.[10] Moreover, according to Amnesty International:
"Not only has the government denied the existence of slavery and failed to respond to cases brought to its attention, it has hampered the activities of organisations which are working on the issue, including by refusing to grant them official recognition".[11]
Imam El Hassan Ould Benyamin of Tayarat in 1997 expressed his views about earlier proclamations ending slavery in his country as follows:
"[it] is contrary to the teachings of the fundamental text of Islamic law, the Quran ... [and] amounts to the expropriation from muslims of their goods; goods that were acquired legally. The state, if it is Islamic, does not have the right to seize my house, my wife or my slave."[12]
Niger
In Niger, where the practice of slavery was outlawed in 2003, a study found that almost 8% of the population are still slaves.[13] Slavery dates back for centuries in Niger and was finally criminalised in 2003, after five years of lobbying by Anti-Slavery International and Nigerian human-rights group, Timidria.[14] More than 870,000 people still live in conditions of forced labour, according to Timidria, a local human rights group.[15][16]
Descent-based slavery, where generations of the same family are born into bondage, is traditionally practised by at least four of Niger’s eight ethnic groups. The slave masters are mostly from the nomadic tribes — the Tuareg, Fulani, Toubou and Arabs.[17] It is especially rife among the warlike Tuareg, in the wild deserts of north and west Niger, who roam near the borders with Mali and Algeria.[18] In the region of Say on the right bank of the river Niger, it is estimated that three-quarters of the population around 1904-1905 was composed of slaves.[19]
Historically, the Tuareg swelled the ranks of their slaves during war raids into other peoples’ lands. War was then the main source of supply of slaves, although many were bought at slave markets, run mostly by indigenous peoples.[20][21]
Sudan
Francis Bok, former Sudanese slave. At the age of seven, he was captured during a raid in Southern Sudan, and enslaved for ten years.(Courtesy Unitarian Universalist Association/Jeanette Leardi)
There has been a recrudescence of jihad slavery since 1983 in the Sudan.[23][24]
Slavery in the Sudan predates Islam, but continued under Islamic rulers and has never completely died out in Sudan. In the Sudan, Christian and animist captives in the civil war are often enslaved, and female prisoners are often used sexually, with their Muslim captors claiming that Islamic law grants them permission.[25] According to CBS news, slaves have been sold for $50 apiece. [1] In 2001 CNN reported the Bush administration was under pressure from Congress, including conservative Christians concerned about religious oppression and slavery, to address issues involved in the Sudanese conflict.[26] CNN has also quoted the U.S. State Department's allegations: "The [Sudanese] government's support of slavery and its continued military action which has resulted in numerous deaths are due in part to the victims' religious beliefs." [2]
Jok Madut Jok, professor of History at Loyola Marymount University, states that the abduction of women and children of the south by north is slavery by any definition. The government of Sudan insists that the whole matter is no more than the traditional tribal feuding over resources.[27]
It is estimated that as many as 200,000 people had been taken into slavery during the Second Sudanese Civil War. The slaves are mostly Dinka people.[28][29]
Child slave trade
The trading of children has been reported in modern Nigeria and Benin.[30] The children are kidnapped or purchased for $20 - $70 each by slavers in poorer states, such as Benin and Togo, and sold into slavery in sex dens or as unpaid domestic servants for $350.00 each in wealthier oil-rich states, such as Nigeria and Gabon.[31] [32]
Ghana, Togo, Benin
In parts of Ghana, a family may be punished for an offense by having to turn over a virgin female to serve as a sex slave within the offended family.[33] In this instance, the woman does not gain the title of "wife". In parts of Ghana, Togo, and Benin, shrine slavery persists, despite being illegal in Ghana since 1998. In this system of slavery, sometimes called trokosi (in Ghana) or voodoosi in Togo and Benin, or ritual servitude, young virgin girls are given as slaves in traditional shrines and are used sexually by the priests in addition to providing free labor for the shrine.[34]
Ethiopia
Mahider Bitew, Children's Rights and Protection expert at the Ministry of Women's Affairs, says that some isolated studies conducted in Dire Dawa, Shashemene, Awassa and three other towns of the country indicate that the problem of child trafficking is very serious. According to a 2003 study about one thousand children were trafficked via Dire Dawa to countries of the Middle East. The majority of those children were girls, most of whom were forced to be sex workers after leaving the country. The International Labor Organization (ILO) has identified prostitution as the Worst Form of Child Labor.[35]
In Ethiopia, children are trafficked into prostitution, to provide cheap or unpaid labor and to work as domestic servants or beggars. The ages of these children are usually between 10 and 18 and their trafficking is from the country to urban centers and from cities to the country. Boys are often expected to work in activities such as herding cattle in rural areas and in the weaving industry in Addis Ababa, and other major towns. Girls are expected to take responsibilities for domestic chores, childcare and looking after the sick and to work as prostitutes.[35]
How in hell can our current crop of law makers “apologize” for any perceived injustice brought on by those long dead?
They are being judged not by the standards of their times but by current standards that are so skewed by moral relativity, multiculturalism and political correctness so as to be irrelevant. If anything, these mealy-mouths should apologize for their own actions and inactions everyday and in every way.
I like it...
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Given that blacks make up 12.7% of the US population and yet pay less than 2% of the taxes (on average), aren’t we giving blacks reparations every April 15?
And have been giving reparations since the imposition of the graduated income tax?
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My ancesters weren’t here during slavery or before. I am not going to pay for something I didn’t do. Just another way to punish people for being white. But, please keep on saying it, Obami, white folks need to know what fun things you have in store for them if you are elected. But, of course, self hating liberals are just crying for this to happen because they enjoy punishment.
Yes, and this wil be used as a foundation through which blacks will get their reparations. However, they will never pass through Congress. They will ultimately get them through the court system. They will sue the U.S. Gov’t after Obama radicalizes our Federal courts including the Supreme Court.
“What the Negro population, some on welfare since welfare started, don’t understand is that they were originally rounded up in Africa by their own kind (Black) and sold to entrepreneurs”
More precisely, they were rounded up by black muslims in Africa -— Barack Obama’s black ancestors.
You’re pretty new here, but in the time you’ve been here you have posted a lot of comments about the “magic negro”. (It seems to be one of your favorite phrases.) Your Archie Bunker types of comments don’t reflect very well on this site. It would be a good idea to tone down the sterotypical bigoted comments a bit.
I want my free money, too.
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