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The Plight of the Bosnian Serbs
Brussels Journal ^ | 7/23/08 | John Laughland

Posted on 07/29/2008 10:32:30 AM PDT by Bokababe

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John Laughland is a Conservative British writer, who had stated that the EU's roots are in fascism and communism.
1 posted on 07/29/2008 10:32:31 AM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 07/29/2008 10:34:10 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
What is clear is that the Srebrenica massacre cannot possibly be described as genocide. Even the most ardent pro-Muslim propagandists agree that the victims of the massacre there were all men. The Bosnian Serbs claim that they were combatants (although that is certainly not an excuse for killing them) but the point is that an army bent on genocide would precisely not have singled out men for execution but would have killed women too.

I don't know if what happened in Srebernica qualifies as genocide or not, but the writer is wrong here. Historically, one of the ways a conqueror would destroy a vanquished tribe or nation was by killing all of its men. That's what the Romans did, for example, when they conquered Carthage- they killed any men they could find, and sold the women and children into slavery.

3 posted on 07/29/2008 10:38:48 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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"Historically, one of the ways a conqueror would destroy a vanquished tribe or nation was by killing all of its men."

A few thousand is far from "killing off all of its men", especially during an ongoing war. It would be a war crime, yes, but a genocide?

4 posted on 07/29/2008 10:42:19 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

What a mess, the World and the US should take notes on what happened when Yugoslavia broke up, the use of ethnicity as a dividing point for politicians to gain power and control.


5 posted on 07/29/2008 10:47:05 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: Bokababe

Since the past can’t be changed there has to be a compensation of Serbia for it’s loss of Kosovo, by giving the Serb region in Bosnia to Serbia. What kind of hypocrisy is it to grant independence to Kosovar Muslims, while denying it to Serbs in Bosnia?


6 posted on 07/29/2008 10:54:44 AM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: Bokababe

Thank you for this post!!


7 posted on 07/29/2008 11:00:31 AM PDT by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: Bokababe

I think he is right on that. Wow, a journalist I actually agree with. How unusual.


8 posted on 07/29/2008 11:13:17 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Citizen Blade

It isn’t what they did, many were executed and many were killed in the ongoing skirmishes as well as infighting amongst themselves. The objective was not to “exterminate” muslims, it started out as an operation to protect Serbs from Oric and his goons then wound up turning into a revenge campaign.


9 posted on 07/29/2008 11:16:55 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Citizen Blade
Well, if it's men old then that's certainly not genocide because genocide would include all sexes and ages.

What the heck do you think any war is but killing off men? It's not like a lot of old ladies are of military age. Do you think US troops are shaking down old women during the war or military age men?

Many dressed in civilian clothes and blend into a crowd. You don't think the same tactics that are being used on US soldiers in Iraq were used on Serb military? Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan is all part of the Jihad. You were lied to by CNN, they didn't want you to draw this common thread so they gave them another name. AlQaeda.

Serbs and Americans are fighting the same enemy and you don't even know it....but I think you will.

Keep in mind, it was Warren Zimmerman who killed the Lisbon Agreement. It could have been avoided but good old Warren wanted to see blood for reasons far beyond the parties involved.

10 posted on 07/29/2008 11:26:08 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Bokababe

http://www.greece.org/genocide/quotes/


11 posted on 07/29/2008 11:31:51 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (similar plight....whereever islam goes..bye bye christians.. your neighborhood is next.)
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To: Bokababe

Well actually Abraham Lincoln was the aggressor in the War Between the States.


12 posted on 07/29/2008 11:41:27 AM PDT by yarddog
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You wrote:

“A few thousand is far from “killing off all of its men”, especially during an ongoing war. It would be a war crime, yes, but a genocide?”

It would be considered part of a program of genocide if Srebernica seemed to be only an installment thereof. That’s what many people thought was happening. And don’t forget about the organized rapes and ethnic cleansing against non-Serbs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u49unD69Lqs&feature=related

If Ante Gotovina can be put on trial because his troops committed 150 murders and ethnically cleansed 200-250,00 Serbs out of Croatian controlled territory then how can the Serbs not be guilty or at least deserving of trials for doing those same things on a greater scale?

Look at Dafur. Everybody calls it genocide because 200-400,000 people have been killed AND BECAUSE OF THE ORGANIZED RAPES, AND ETHNIC CLEANSING.


13 posted on 07/29/2008 11:44:22 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: SQUID; Citizen Blade
Keep in mind, it was Warren Zimmerman who killed the Lisbon Agreement.

Zimmerman may have assisted, but it was Izetbegovic who ultimately killed Lisbon

14 posted on 07/29/2008 11:52:27 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: vladimir998; Bokababe

The bulk of the Muslim men that died were killed by military action as the armed column fought its way to Tuzla.

If the Muslims were really worried about genocide, they certainly wouldn’t have left their women and children to the mercy of the Bosnia Serb army!

Srebrenica was a armed camp used by the Muslims to terrorize the surrounding population!


15 posted on 07/29/2008 12:01:27 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Bokababe

“Genocide” is bad therefore the word is applicable to any action or opinion opposed by the left.


16 posted on 07/29/2008 12:04:51 PM PDT by arthurus
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How many of the "dead" are like these two?
In a major embarrassment for the Bosnian Government, two Muslim brothers whose supposed murders were used as evidence in a highly publicized war crimes trial to condemn two Bosnian Serbs to death have been found living in a Sarajevo suburb.

Jailed Serbs' 'Victims' Found Alive, Embarrassing Bosnia (NY Times)

17 posted on 07/29/2008 12:14:21 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: vladimir998; Bokababe
How many of the "dead" are like these two?
In a major embarrassment for the Bosnian Government, two Muslim brothers whose supposed murders were used as evidence in a highly publicized war crimes trial to condemn two Bosnian Serbs to death have been found living in a Sarajevo suburb.

Jailed Serbs' 'Victims' Found Alive, Embarrassing Bosnia (NY Times)

18 posted on 07/29/2008 12:15:27 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: vladimir998
If Ante Gotovina can be put on trial because his troops committed 150 murders and ethnically cleansed 200-250,00 Serbs out of Croatian controlled territory then how can the Serbs not be guilty or at least deserving of trials for doing those same things on a greater scale?

Operation Storm was the largest example of ethnic cleansing during the bteak-up of Yugoslavia. More specifically, subsequent to the US-trained Croation forces attack on Knin and taking most of the Krajina, this led to a reduction of the Serb populaton of approximately 12% to a mere 3%.

That's a lot of people, Vladimir.

19 posted on 07/29/2008 12:16:53 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

More Croatian apologetics, its become endemic around here as of late.


20 posted on 07/29/2008 12:22:05 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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