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To: Bokababe
What is clear is that the Srebrenica massacre cannot possibly be described as genocide. Even the most ardent pro-Muslim propagandists agree that the victims of the massacre there were all men. The Bosnian Serbs claim that they were combatants (although that is certainly not an excuse for killing them) but the point is that an army bent on genocide would precisely not have singled out men for execution but would have killed women too.

I don't know if what happened in Srebernica qualifies as genocide or not, but the writer is wrong here. Historically, one of the ways a conqueror would destroy a vanquished tribe or nation was by killing all of its men. That's what the Romans did, for example, when they conquered Carthage- they killed any men they could find, and sold the women and children into slavery.

3 posted on 07/29/2008 10:38:48 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Citizen Blade
"Historically, one of the ways a conqueror would destroy a vanquished tribe or nation was by killing all of its men."

A few thousand is far from "killing off all of its men", especially during an ongoing war. It would be a war crime, yes, but a genocide?

4 posted on 07/29/2008 10:42:19 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Citizen Blade

It isn’t what they did, many were executed and many were killed in the ongoing skirmishes as well as infighting amongst themselves. The objective was not to “exterminate” muslims, it started out as an operation to protect Serbs from Oric and his goons then wound up turning into a revenge campaign.


9 posted on 07/29/2008 11:16:55 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Citizen Blade
Well, if it's men old then that's certainly not genocide because genocide would include all sexes and ages.

What the heck do you think any war is but killing off men? It's not like a lot of old ladies are of military age. Do you think US troops are shaking down old women during the war or military age men?

Many dressed in civilian clothes and blend into a crowd. You don't think the same tactics that are being used on US soldiers in Iraq were used on Serb military? Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan is all part of the Jihad. You were lied to by CNN, they didn't want you to draw this common thread so they gave them another name. AlQaeda.

Serbs and Americans are fighting the same enemy and you don't even know it....but I think you will.

Keep in mind, it was Warren Zimmerman who killed the Lisbon Agreement. It could have been avoided but good old Warren wanted to see blood for reasons far beyond the parties involved.

10 posted on 07/29/2008 11:26:08 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Citizen Blade
>>>>>> don't know if what happened in Srebernica qualifies as genocide or not, but the writer is wrong here. Historically, one of the ways a conqueror would destroy a vanquished tribe or nation was by killing all of its men<<<<<

Muslims of Srebrenica were not a distinct ethnic group, tribe or a nation. They were merely a fraction of Bosnian Muslim population living in Bosnia and Herzegovina. They were combatants, not civilians. Bosnian Muslim men from nearby Bosnian Muslim Zepa enclave were not harmed.

Genocide is determined when there is AN INTENT to destroy an ethnic group AS SUCH.

The only genocide that occured in Bosnia is genocide of Serbs and Jews during WWII.

30 posted on 07/29/2008 1:48:59 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Citizen Blade
Don't forget history's biggest mass murderer of all. This is just the beginning of what became centuries of mass murder by those that follow his "perfect example", and it continues today.

"Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

32 posted on 07/29/2008 1:56:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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