Posted on 07/29/2008 4:11:38 AM PDT by goldstategop
Supporters of Proposition 8, the proposed state constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage, said they would file suit today to block a change made by California Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown to the language of the measure's ballot title and summary.
Petitions circulated to qualify the initiative for the ballot said the measure would amend the state Constitution "to provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
In a move made public last week and applauded by same-sex marriage proponents, the attorney general's office changed the language to say that Proposition 8 seeks to "eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Do homosexualists have the right to a Civil Union in California? They do here in NZ, and it is proving a tidy legal way around some of the messier aspects of them having “relationships” that are not recognized in law.
I’d be in favor of homosexualists having Civil Unions, and opposed to them having Marriages.
The wording should be what the voters approved.
Former Gov. “Moonbeam”, “I’ll take that under consideration” rounding up the usual suspect Leftist groupies for his forthcoming rerun for Gov. of Calif.
He’ll probably win too.
So, Jerry Brown has perverted the language of the Initiative to decrease its chances of success. And now the supporters, who went to the massive effort to gather hundreds of thousands of signatures, must count on the California courts -- which created this mess in the first place -- to straighten out the false language from AG Brown.
I hope for a good result. But I don't give good odds that it will occur.
Congressman Billybob
Eighth in the ten-part series, "The Owner's Manual (Part 8) -- Other Articles Including Amendment"
I don’t know why people are all concerned about Proposition 8. Even if it wins, it will never be allowed to stand by the California Supreme Court. No matter what the legalities, they will strike it down.
I guess it will be an useful demonstration that the law is what the California Supreme Court says it is, and nothing more. But there have been ample demonstrations of this over the years, and people don’t seem to care. They are happy to be ruled by a black-robed junta.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
What is a government recognized marriage if not a “civil union”? The term is a distinction without a difference.
Oh, but there is a REASON they insist on it being called “Marriage” -
in order to devalue and destroy the meaning of the word as applied to the basic unit of society.
> What is a government recognized marriage if not a “civil union”? The term is a distinction without a difference.
It’s tempting to draw that conclusion, particularly as a Civil Union draws similar legal outcomes to a Marriage — at least it does in New Zealand, where I live.
Here, in law, a Civil Union is explicitly *not* a “Marriage”, and it is available to both homo-and-heterosexualist couples.
But now that you’re raised the point, I am hard-pressed to articulate the difference.
I will have to re-acquaint myself with the key differences between the two. I will report back shortly...
The difference is this: Civil unions are not recognized as religious unions within the Bible. They are simply a social contract that does not insinuate itself as if it were a blessed sacrament that carries with it God’s explicit blessing.
Civil unions are legal contracts, just as the civil part of marriage is. But civil unions do not carry anything more than the legal contract side.
The homosexual marriage debate is nothing more than a frontal assault on christianity, IMO. The homo-lobby must destroy that which recognize4s its evil.
...reporting back, as promised. In New Zealand, the ONLY real difference between Civil Unions and Marriages appears to be that Marriage is only available to couples of opposite sex.
And the family. Yes, Christianity is the BIG target, but you have to look at all the avenues of assault. Destroying the concept of and specialness of the traditional family is a huge front in the God V Devil war.
I was going to say the primary difference is Civil Union doesn’t bring any religious connotations to the table.
The ballot title and description ought to accurately read that Proposition 8 seeks to “redress the grievance of out-of-control courts crapping on the right of voters to self-determined government and laws.”
No, just the force of government to compel those not involved in the charade to act as if it IS marriage for all practical purposes.
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