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For Jews, tattoo yearning pits pride against faith
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Posted on 07/28/2008 6:34:51 AM PDT by WilliamReading

BOCA RATON — Mo Brenner is taking Jewish pride to a new and controversial level.

The 27-year-old Boca Raton tattoo artist boasts a large Star of David on his upper right arm engraved with Abram, his Hebrew name.

He'll gladly sketch Hebrew writing and Jewish stars on his clients at Boca Body Art, because what could possibly be a better way to celebrate religion than with a shrine that will last a lifetime?

"A tattoo should really mean something to you," Brenner said. "Mine represents my religion and family."

With the tattoo phenomenon continuing to explode - 40 percent of people between the ages of 26 to 40 have at least one tattoo, according to the Pew Research Center - some Jews don't want to be left out.

But it's a contradiction for a religion that most believe forbids tattoos. Perhaps even more stinging, millions of Jews were forcibly tattooed during the Holocaust.

"I was always taught that nice Jewish people didn't do that," said 40-year-old Boca resident Amy Lubetkin. "When I think of tattoos, I think of the Holocaust and how tattooing of all these Jewish people was another way to take away their identity, take away from who they were."

Bruce Ratoff, a 55-year-old Boca resident, considers himself an only moderately observant Jew, yet there are certain lines he refuses to cross.

"Tattoos are a permanent mutilation and thus a direct violation of Jewish law," Ratoff said. "The Nazis were aware of this - it was a deliberate desecration when they tattooed concentration camp inmates. Why then should we deliberately choose to desecrate ourselves? I find this trend most disturbing."

Strangely enough, this is one of the reasons that younger Jews, like 18-year-old Alexis Engelhardt of West Palm Beach, are heading to tattoo parlors.

Engelhardt's grandmother was a Holocaust survivor, so he considered having "remember" tattooed on his forearm in Hebrew.

Ultimately he decided against it because he didn't want such a visible tattoo to hurt his chances at future employment. Instead, he modified a common tattoo of surfers - nautical stars at the front of the hips - using two Jewish stars.

"My parents were kind of upset when they found out, and so was my grandma, but it isn't that big of a deal," Engelhardt said. "I think you should take religion as more of a guideline instead of just rules saying this is how you should live. I think banning tattoos is a little bit ancient, and we're kind of past that."

Tattoo artist Brenner, the great-grandson of Jews caught up in the Holocaust, is thinking about adding yellow coloring to the Star of David on his arm.

Jewish people were forced to wear yellow stars and badges in Nazi Germany.

"I want to represent what they went through," Brenner said.

It's an argument that puzzles orthodox Rabbi Shlomo Uminer of the Chabad Jewish Center of Martin and St. Lucie Counties.

"That memory is not a good memory," Uminer said. "The memory of the Holocaust, that terrible act of barbarism that happened while the whole world watched and was quiet, is not something of remembrance. We shouldn't forget, but if you want to be clear that you're Jewish, wear a yarmulke (the traditional Jewish skullcap) on your head.

"How can you care about your religion when you disobey it (by getting a tattoo)? It just doesn't work."

Anthony Fratello, the Reform rabbi of Temple Shaarei Shalom in Boynton Beach, said he has very mixed emotions about tattoos on Jewish people.

He believes that the biblical text barring tattoos is "a bit vague" and that the real stigma these days stems from the Holocaust.

He's heard of people tattooing exact replicas of the numbers that were tattooed on the forearms of their relatives in concentration camps.

"There are those who see it as a way to reconnect with people that perished in the Holocaust, and I can see both sides of the argument," Fratello said.

However, he believes there is something sacred about keeping the body unmarked.

"I think there's a great deal that we can learn from the traditional perspective to say that it's your body, and God gave it you to take care of," Fratello said.

Many Jews have been reluctant to get tattoos because of a long-standing belief that the deceased can't be buried in Jewish cemeteries if they are tattooed.

However, even Orthodox rabbis like Uminer say that's a myth.

The Star of David of the Palm Beaches cemetery in West Palm Beach has no policy regarding tattoos, and Mount Sinai Memorial Park - an Orthodox cemetery in Miami - doesn't have its employees view the body before it is buried.

Once Ann Pardes of Boca Raton learned that prohibiting tattooed Jews from being buried was "just an old wives' tale," she permitted her son to get a tattoo in remembrance of his grandmother.

"I couldn't say no," Pardes said. "I thought it was for a very good reason, and it's a beautiful tattoo in memory of my mom. I'm even considering getting one myself."

Still, don't expect all Jewish people to go against a tattoo-forbidding mantra passed on for thousands of years.

"Every place I look, every movie star, every rock star, every athlete has tattoos, so I'm not surprised at this trend," Lubetkin said. "But I'm still going to instill in my children that Jewish people don't get tattoos. When my son was as young as 4 and he'd see somebody with a tattoo, he'd say, 'Mommy, that person's not Jewish.'"


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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich; absolootezer0; envisio; Melas; retrokitten; Marie
Oh look another one....how ugly will this one get?

Tattoo thread.....PING!!

21 posted on 07/28/2008 6:57:25 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Red Badger
Isn’t this against the “Law”?...........

It is against the Law, and also stupid.

22 posted on 07/28/2008 6:57:31 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: WilliamReading

A couple thousand years ago, a cross was an instrument of torture...now it is all-but-mandatory adornment...


23 posted on 07/28/2008 6:57:32 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (No longer welcome in my own 'happy place'.)
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To: WilliamReading

I am neither a Sailor or do I belong to a motorcycle group. Sometimes people get tattoos in order to memorialize people they love.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee247/LongIslandPete/Tat1.jpg


24 posted on 07/28/2008 6:58:13 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: WilliamReading
Exactly

Leviticus 19:28

‘You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.

Having said all this my eldest USMC son had a tat of their emblem on his arm but you never see it because his shirt sleeve cover it up.

No, I was not thrilled with it but he is free, white and over 21.... and I sort of understood why

25 posted on 07/28/2008 6:59:11 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Andonius_99
"This guy sounds like a trailer-park-loving ex-con/prostitute wannabe..."

HA HA HA....I see you were on the other thread last week.

26 posted on 07/28/2008 6:59:55 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

As a Jew, I always found tattoos to be repulsive . . would never think of having one. Temporary tattos are okay as far as that goes.

On the other hand, if I see a Sailor or Marine who didn’t have one on his upper arm, I would be slightly disappointed. .


27 posted on 07/28/2008 7:01:01 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Long Island Pete

Nice ink....very beautiful tribute.


28 posted on 07/28/2008 7:01:10 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: cripplecreek
The lack of tattoos, piercings and other modifications is one of the things that attracted me to my girlfriend in the first place. She doesn’t even wear earings. Just a Claddagh ring on her finger.

I hear you neighbor. When I was a young, husky fella riding big bikes on the street, I drew up a design- cross in a circle, with a winged heart overlaying it-- fully intending to have it tattooed on my shoulder.

But the urge passed, and now that I'm shrunken and grey, I'm kind of glad it did. It was a pretty design, even so.

Watching my nieces grow up, the first piercing didn't bother me, but when they multiplied- a got a few tattoos-- it made me a little queasy...

29 posted on 07/28/2008 7:01:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the Trakball in to the Sunset...)
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To: Alouette
"You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves: I am the Lord" (Leviticus 19:28).

Vague, Rabbi Fratello? Why because G-d didn't say "You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves: I am the Lord, and that goes especially for you, Fratello!"?

30 posted on 07/28/2008 7:01:53 AM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
HA HA HA....I see you were on the other thread last week.

On the thread?!?! Hell, I was the 1st to be called "Ma'am"! :)

31 posted on 07/28/2008 7:02:36 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: Red Badger
Ping!...........Isn’t this against the “Law”?...........

Leviticus says no tattoos

32 posted on 07/28/2008 7:02:40 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: Alouette

Even though I’m not Jewish, I detest tattoos. Never even got one in the Marine Corps, when all my buddies were. My wife feels the same. So what does our daughter do as soon as she turns 18? Goes out and gets a tattoo................


33 posted on 07/28/2008 7:02:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Rummyfan
Me, I just don’t understand the whole tattoo phenomenon.

Seriously, why do people want to put graffiti on their bodies so they they end up looking like a NY subway wall?

34 posted on 07/28/2008 7:04:00 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: donna; All

For what it’s worth, Theodore Dalrymple is his book, “Our Culture, What’s Left of It,” said that not all people who have tattoos are criminals but ALL criminals have tattoos. Of course, he’s speaking as a British psychiatrist and he may be referring to the situation there.


35 posted on 07/28/2008 7:05:04 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Andonius_99
"On the thread?!?! Hell, I was the 1st to be called "Ma'am"! :)"

OMG...that's right.

That thread was ugly for days.....I asked a few others who is starting the Tattooed FReeper Trailer Park, and Bar & Grill?

36 posted on 07/28/2008 7:05:13 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: WilliamReading
On the other hand, if I see a Sailor or Marine who didn’t have one on his upper arm, I would be slightly disappointed.

I didn't get a tattoo in The Marines, when all my buddies did. Never bothered me....................

37 posted on 07/28/2008 7:05:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Red Badger

Even though I’m not Jewish, I detest tattoos. Never even got one in the Marine Corps, when all my buddies were. My wife feels the same. So what does our daughter do as soon as she turns 18? Goes out and gets a tattoo................

She better go out and join the Lady Marines, then. Are there women in the Marines?


38 posted on 07/28/2008 7:06:46 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: goldstategop

I know 2 Jewish girls with nose jobs (and probably other things). How is it not mutilation or doing with the body what one pleases to do these things while a different set of standards applies to tattoos?


39 posted on 07/28/2008 7:06:55 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Rummyfan

Tatoo Removal... the next big money maker.. its already underway, as the sorority girls realize the tramp stamp and arm and ankle bands that seems so cool in College, hinder them in the workplace.


40 posted on 07/28/2008 7:07:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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