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Nobama's Civilian National Security Forces Explained? (This is Scary)
http://www.anewtone.com ^ | July 23, 2008 | snooper

Posted on 07/27/2008 9:41:34 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

HT goes to the JPA Live BTR Show and Danger Girl for an article in Military Times, which is owned by Gannett which also publishes the USA Today newspaper. I called your attention to the MT's affiliation because the MT in no way and by no means whatsoever is linked to the "official" military news outlets. All "official" news outlets of the military are either .org or .gov. Any alleged military news outlet which has a .com or a .net designator should be taken with a grain of salt - or something of a lesser value. This, however, does not apply to blogs or bloggers for the obvious - even to the oblivious - reasons. To perform a back-check, please visit this site.

Now that the disclaimer has been provided, we will now take a look at this interview by USA Today staffers with Barack Obama, giving the inference that the military is interviewing Barack Insane Hussein Obama. Scurrilous does not even come close to the implications here, does it?

In this interview the following question was asked:

Q: You said you don't want to rob Peter to pay Paul, so how are you going to pay Paul? Troop increases are an enormous expense. To arrive at the full intent and the presented answer - if you can call it that - one will have to read the entire interview. This interview is a near prefect case study for a pretty verbiage explanation as to how the would-be First Czar of the newly formed USSA (with a "k") will decimate the now United States Armed Forces. He claims that he wants to expand the military but what he doesn't say is that he intends on taking the punch our military has away from them. We will have a bigger military with a lesser punch. This sounds counter productive to me.

In conjunction with this and before we continue with this interview by USA Today staffers, please recall this statement: (where he mentions AmeriCorps and Peace Corps as the "civilians")

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." That statement alone is scary but having it placed in context is frightening. Barack, in this interview, has placed it in context. One of the partners here at A Newt One, Loki, has stated that if Barack intends to utilize AmeriCorps and Peace Corps personnel to fill vacancies in embassies and missions "that have been boarded up", he certainly doesn't understand the United States Constitution that her has purported to have once been an instructor thereof. However, it gets worse than that. This has grown beyond the pale of frightening. Behold:

[...] I should add, by the way, that part of the change that I want when it comes to Army and Marine structures is the mix of training that we're providing and mix of personnel that are in these forces. One of the things I have been so impressed with is the heroic job that our men and women in uniform have done basically on the fly having to train themselves on the spot to function as engineers or function as social workers or function as translators or political consultants. There's just been a whole bunch of work that has been done that we haven't prepared people for. They learn on the job, but if anything Iraq should have given us a template for the kinds of skill sets that we're going to have to provide to our military. And that's true in Iraq. That's true in Afghanistan. That also means, by the way, that we're going to have to, I believe, reconfigure our civilian national security force. In a way that just hasn't been done.

I mean, we still have a national security apparatus on the civilian side in the way the State Department is structured and [Agency for International Development] and all these various agencies. That hearkens back to the Cold War. And we need that wing of our national security apparatus to carry its weight. When we talk about reinventing our military, we should reinvent that apparatus as well. We need to be able to deploy teams that combine agricultural specialists and engineers and linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military. [...] Parse that.

This interview was published on 08 JUL 08, 6 days after his speech in Colorado Springs. However, he makes no mention of AmeriCorps or Peace Corps personnel but he does say this:

[...] Absolutely, but the only problem with soft power is the term itself makes people think it's not as strong as hard power. And my point is that if we've got a State Department or personnel that have been trained just to be behind walls, and they have not been equipped to get out there alongside our military and engage, then we don't have the kind of national security apparatus that is needed. That has to be planned for; it has to be paid for. Those personnel have to be trained. And they all have to be integrated and that is something that we have not accomplished yet, but that's going to be what's increasingly important in our future to make sure that our military has the support that it needs to do what it does the best, which is fight wars. [...] And there you have it. He is going to arm State Department Personnel so they can fight along side the United States Military. He is going to utilize AmeriCorps and Peace Corps Personnel to go into areas the US Military does to be the Agents of Change. Case closed and checkmate.

Excuse me Barack but the US Military Special Forces already handle such activities. Does the Anbar Awakening ring a bell? Our military, in special detail, has the training you are babbling about and making it sound like this is a new concept and making it sound like a good idea because you thought of it. Sorry. The US Military has already been doing this for years and decades.


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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; LonePalm
Perilous policy ping......

Engarde!
21 posted on 07/27/2008 10:40:30 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: LRS
Your talent is not weird....it's right on......and you are undoubtedly divinely inspired by The Messiah's holy trinity, Me, Myself and I.

Leni

22 posted on 07/27/2008 10:41:32 AM PDT by MinuteGal (A Hottie Contest In Progress on Freepathon Thread. See #'s 665 &668. Enter and be a WINNER for FR!)
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To: crazydad

Excellent point. We need to stand up to the leftist thugs.


23 posted on 07/27/2008 10:44:12 AM PDT by detective
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To: BenLurkin

I’ll answer, but first I have to check with the political officer.


24 posted on 07/27/2008 10:45:38 AM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Just Obama singin’ in a his favorite song...”I Love The Sound Of Me”.


25 posted on 07/27/2008 10:46:46 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Say Obama were "Pinky", Then who is "The Brain"?)
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To: Para-Ord.45

26 posted on 07/27/2008 10:53:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Uh Barry, you mean like these guys?

The Waffen SS.
Uncle Adolf's "civilian national security force" that was "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded" as the German Wehrmacht (Army).

Plus those Black Dress Uniforms were real chick magnets. When they marched babes fainted as they Goose-Stepped on by.

27 posted on 07/27/2008 10:58:09 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Oddly enough The Cuban version wears Obama's colors, instead of red.

28 posted on 07/27/2008 10:59:05 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: crazydad

This has the symptoms of an effort to co-opt the ordinary citizens like yourself into a government militia, to preclude the possibility of a citizen’s militia ready to limit the reach of an obama administration. The latter is the kind of militia the Constitution implied in the 2d Amendment. Obama’s effort to kill two birds with one stone: Nationalize the country’s firearms, along with its citizens.

I’m with you.


29 posted on 07/27/2008 11:11:00 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Para-Ord.45
linguists and cultural specialists who are prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas alongside our military
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Anyone have any idea how many linguist and cultural specialists will be required to cover the many units that might be deployed to the many hot spots of the world?

30 posted on 07/27/2008 11:22:14 AM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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To: BenLurkin

As a retired military I can easily see that Obama is so naive as to be a threat to our safety. It would seriously undermine the military mission to have a bunch of State Department lackeys tagging along and getting in the way. Given the political nature of the State Department it would also be like taking a Fifth Column into battle with you so they could actively undermine the mission and endanger the troops!

Obama is either a fool or a naive idiot!


31 posted on 07/27/2008 11:31:24 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Noumenon

“Il Dupe”

LOL!!!


32 posted on 07/27/2008 11:32:02 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Para-Ord.45; SE Mom

One word, Katimavak, google it....


33 posted on 07/27/2008 12:20:16 PM PDT by Born In America (I question Europeon judgement when it comes to electing leaders, ie., Mussolini, Hilter, etc.)
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To: Laserman
Given the political nature of the State Department it would also be like taking a Fifth Column into battle with you so they could actively undermine the mission and endanger the troops!

Heck. The current crop of Pentagon lawyers already do that. Most of them believe that they should be consulted before ANY shot is fired and our current ROE over there shows it.

34 posted on 07/27/2008 12:30:19 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Wiseghy
This looks more like Carter II, sort of Carter on steroids.

I used to compare him to Carter, but not any more. He makes Carter look like Reagan.

He seems to think that whatever he concocts in his mind is reality, and yet he can't even point to any positive past results for his ideas.

His ideas have all been tried in the past, with disastrous results. But like all hard leftists, he thinks history begins with him, too arrogant and stupid to look at the past. He's thinks he's smarter than they were, yet he can't put two sentences together without a teleprompter.

He will have to make hard decisions every day, yet he voted "present" 130 times as a lowly state senator. What was so tough about those decisions? Men like Putin will run him over.

If elected, he may very well compete for Worst President in History. Men like Putin will run him over.

35 posted on 07/27/2008 1:22:40 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Para-Ord.45

Translation into German = GeStaPo (German State Police) - although the first word in German was not “German”, but another German word.

So, I figure Obama’s state police force could be called
BOStaPo - Bostapo - Barack Obama-—
or
DemStaPo - Demstapo - Democratic-—
or
MesStaPo - Messtapo - Messiah-—

Any other good names you can think of?


36 posted on 07/27/2008 3:00:57 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop

bttt


37 posted on 07/27/2008 3:05:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, you have always nailed this jerk BHMO.

In no way can US civilians replace boots on the ground.

As to the Peace Corps, I never saw a single one in a combat area. I saw a few on a flight a year or so later flying to another country, and; they stuck out like a sore thumb with long hair and hippie packs.

As for the Agency for International Development (AID), it was often located in safer areas in RVN, and; the head man was often a retired Army or Marine officer or on loan to them. Major Provinces often had a AID head. Great job pay wise.

I am no fan of the Peace Corps. Now AID can be used effectively if Dept of State keeps it’s FSO’s and undue influence out of it.

I favor the draft to Obama’s plans as many young men need the discipline and personal responsibility the military teaches.

I seem to recall that our FSO’s in DEPT of State refused to go Iraq?

Obama is a Marxist. He has no military experience, and Wes Clark would have received a career ending OER from my CO had he pulled his walking down a trail BS in my unit.

Obama is promising so many things to all,and; the cost will be enormous.

His wife may have given the answer to the question of what the civilian corps will be. Barry will require much of you or words to that effect. I suspect the civilian corps will be a large social organization with a goal of being both community organizers and pro Obama police.


38 posted on 07/28/2008 8:00:01 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Gumdrop

Actually it Geheime Staats Polizi - Secret State Police.


39 posted on 07/28/2008 8:14:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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